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Old 07-21-2011, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So does this mean Republicans now have respect for higher education, or education in general? I sure haven't seen much evidence of this over the last several years.
Yeah, as in go get it yourself. Not try to forcefeed it down the throats of those who can't (or purposely don't) appreciate it.
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:44 AM
 
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Says the fact that pretty much everyone I know who is trying to redistribute wealth to the "needy" wouldn't let welfare recipients in their yard, much less in their house.

Also, every single argument I've ever had with someone about the broken welfare system has degenerated into the welfare proponent saying something along the lines of "they can't help the way they are." That is quite possibly the most patronizing term I've ever heard, and screams "I'm better than them" from the rooftops.
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Right.................

So you are saying that although a greater percentage of republicans are college educated, the democrats embrace the worthless degrees that will allow them to be highly educated employees in the fast food industry?

All this "compassion" that liberals "feel" for their fellow man is empty sympathy, as liberals rarely will donate their capital or time to the "causes" they hold dear. Ever ask a liberal for a donation to anything? They are shocked that they would be asked to contribute some of THEIR money to a cause- that is what government is for.
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Democrats court dependents. Keep giving them long term government freebies so they vote Democrat and keep the goodies coming. The only winners in the "War on Poverty" are Democrat politicians and victimology guys who derive their power by keeping people down and dependent on them. Who are the people who need long term freebies besides disabled people? Who quits high school? Who pops out babies they can't afford knowing the government will take care of them with welfare, food stamps and subsidized housing? Who are the drug burn outs panhandling between drug runs when they aren't committing crimes to get money for their next fix? They're Democrats. They always conveniently forget that large uneducated underclass that they keep down and dependent on them long term, and who also comprise the Democrat party, when they tout their party's so-called great intelligence.
Three different rightie posters quoting their very prejudicial opinions as absolutes. I see no supporting FACTS for any of your posts, which makes them worthless RWNJ opinions.

So very typical....

FWIW:Study: Are Liberals Smarter Than Conservatives? - TIME
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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So does this mean Republicans now have respect for higher education, or education in general? I sure haven't seen much evidence of this over the last several years.
We all now there a lot of "things" you haven't seen over the years. Take off the blinders of hate and you might learn something.
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Three different rightie posters quoting their very prejudicial opinions as absolutes. I see no supporting FACTS for any of your posts, which makes them worthless RWNJ opinions.

So very typical....

FWIW:Study: Are Liberals Smarter Than Conservatives? - TIME
Considering that the entire premise of this post is based on the opinion of the OP and the opinions of whoever wrote the Wikipedia article, pointing out that other people are posting their opinions is fairly redundant.

Remember, liberalism and conservatism, along with any other -ism, are nothing but a system of belief, which, at the core, are based on personal opinions.

FWIW, I don't qualify as a rightie or a leftie. I tend to be fiscally conservative, but I'm not against welfare - only the welfare system that we currently have. As soon as they fix it to make sure that it isn't being abused, I'll gladly support it. Luckily I live in a state that has just passed a bill to make drug testing a requirement for welfare. It's a start. I'm not against paying taxes, I just want the taxes to be balanced across the spectrum. Socially, I lean toward live and let live. I support gay marriage, I don't care enough about abortion to be either for or against it, and I'm all for legalization of marijuana. I think the war on drugs is the stupidest war America has ever engaged in.

If you'd like to call me a rightie, feel free, but I'd say most right-wingers wouldn't want me representing them

Btw, thanks for the link to the article, however it doesn't really do any better than Wikipedia to answer the question of numbers. Personally, it is my opinion that the degree of education doesn't make nearly as much difference in liberalism vs. conservatism as your upbringing. In general, from personal experience, people raised conservative tend to be conservative, people raised liberal tend to be liberal. The degree of liberalism or conservatism may be affected by education, but the core belief system is instilled long before we reach college age.
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Old 07-21-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Considering that the entire premise of this post is based on the opinion of the OP and the opinions of whoever wrote the Wikipedia article, pointing out that other people are posting their opinions is fairly redundant.

Remember, liberalism and conservatism, along with any other -ism, are nothing but a system of belief, which, at the core, are based on personal opinions.

FWIW, I don't qualify as a rightie or a leftie. I tend to be fiscally conservative, but I'm not against welfare - only the welfare system that we currently have. As soon as they fix it to make sure that it isn't being abused, I'll gladly support it. Luckily I live in a state that has just passed a bill to make drug testing a requirement for welfare. It's a start. I'm not against paying taxes, I just want the taxes to be balanced across the spectrum. Socially, I lean toward live and let live. I support gay marriage, I don't care enough about abortion to be either for or against it, and I'm all for legalization of marijuana. I think the war on drugs is the stupidest war America has ever engaged in.

If you'd like to call me a rightie, feel free, but I'd say most right-wingers wouldn't want me representing them

Btw, thanks for the link to the article, however it doesn't really do any better than Wikipedia to answer the question of numbers.
Which was my point.

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Personally, it is my opinion that the degree of education doesn't make nearly as much difference in liberalism vs. conservatism as your upbringing. In general, from personal experience, people raised conservative tend to be conservative, people raised liberal tend to be liberal. The degree of liberalism or conservatism may be affected by education, but the core belief system is instilled long before we reach college age.
It is my opinion that reasonable, educated people do not make blanket statements that damn large groups of people without supporting evidence. Go back and read the posts I quoted. All made absolute assertions re liberals/democrats that gave the reader far more info about the poster than about the aforementioned liberals/democrats.
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Old 07-21-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Right.................

So you are saying that although a greater percentage of republicans are college educated, the democrats embrace the worthless degrees that will allow them to be highly educated employees in the fast food industry?

All this "compassion" that liberals "feel" for their fellow man is empty sympathy, as liberals rarely will donate their capital or time to the "causes" they hold dear. Ever ask a liberal for a donation to anything? They are shocked that they would be asked to contribute some of THEIR money to a cause- that is what government is for.
Wow. You managed to slam the intelligence and character of your fellow citizens, with no basis whatsoever. I am sorry to say it does not make you look very smart or very generous yourself.
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Old 07-21-2011, 10:32 AM
 
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Wow. You managed to slam the intelligence and character of your fellow citizens, with no basis whatsoever. I am sorry to say it does not make you look very smart or very generous yourself.

Hey, the truth hurts. Dems have lower average IQs and are as tight as a drum- they will not donate a dime to charity themseves. Liberals THINK of themselves as being compassionate and charitable. The problem is - that is all they do about it- think about it.


ParaPundit: IQ And Voting For The Dominant Party


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...beral_giv.html
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Old 07-21-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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I don't know. Apparently Republicans are more likely to have 4 year degrees. People receiving advanced degrees (beyond 4 years) are more likely to be Democrats. According to the same Wiki article.
Advanced degrees are a waste of time and money unless you are going into teaching.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:20 PM
 
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Or, perhaps the educated on the dem side educate themselves in something other than how to make money? Maybe the humanities, education, science, math, etc. You know, all the things that make you more human and lead to greater critical thinking skills, both of which lead to greater compassion and far less judgment for your fellow man.
Sounds like liberal elitism to me. All those things are well and good but, how many jobs do they create? Jobs, you know the thing that everyone is complaining because there aren't any.

Are you saying creating jobs doesn't help mankind? How many jobs are created by studying the humanities. Knowledge is good as long as you can use that knowledge. Knowledge just for sake of knowledge only makes the person feel good.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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I read on Wikipedia that Republicans have a higher rate of Bachelor degree holders.
Speaking of education....
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