Pro-Gay Video Has Kissing Kids and Christian Slamming (leader, claim, Muslim)

[thePR]

Originally Posted by janelle144

What societies in the past have survived when they allowed gay marriage? Don't give me recent ones who are allowing it now, we are going to see if they will survive and where they will be in the future.

What societies of the past have survived period?

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by janelle144

one man and 4 women or any other combination seems weird

which coincidentally is exactly what Islam allows...not that I wish to detract from your main point.

Polygamy is an entirely seperate issue from homosexuality and pedophilia.

Just for reference, the Bible cites many instances of men having more than one wife. Abraham and Jacob each had two, Solomon had hundreds. Homosexuality, on the other hand, is condemned throughout the Bible, without exception.

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Originally Posted by janelle144

What societies in the past have survived when they allowed gay marriage? Don't give me recent ones who are allowing it now, we are going to see if they will survive and where they will be in the future.

The idea that same-sex marriage will lead to the end of American society is utterly preposterous. Anyone who believes that should seek professional help.

[janelle144]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

which coincidentally is exactly what Islam allows...not that I wish to detract from your main point.

Polygamy is an entirely seperate issue from homosexuality and pedophilia.

Just for reference, the Bible cites many instances of men having more than one wife. Abraham and Jacob each had two, Solomon had hundreds. Homosexuality, on the other hand, is condemned throughout the Bible, without exception.

I wanted to leave out the bible in the discussion of evolution. Just talking about human nature.

[janelle144]

Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale

The idea that same-sex marriage will lead to the end of American society is utterly preposterous. Anyone who believes that should seek professional help.

So tell me about a society that allowed gay marriage and thrived.

[hammertime33]

Originally Posted by janelle144

So tell me about a society that allowed gay marriage and thrived.

I bet a lot of the 150 or so Native American societies that accepted and celebrated what we today call homosexuality and gay marriages (they viewed it much, much differently) would still be thriving had Christian conquerors not subdued them at smallpox-infested-blanketpoint.

Then again, you probably view that conquest and genocide as God's divine judgement against the wicked.

[maja]

Originally Posted by robbobobbo

And what's wrong with this societal shift?



Women's suffrage also had an activist and marketing effort behind it - would you have deplored it as being manipulative?

Did they target children?

[maja]

Originally Posted by janelle144

So tell me about a society that allowed gay marriage and thrived.

Good question.

[janelle144]

Originally Posted by hammertime33

I bet a lot of the 150 or so Native American societies that accepted and celebrated what we today call homosexuality and gay marriages (they viewed it much, much differently) would still be thriving had Christian conquerors not subdued them at smallpox-infested-blanketpoint.

Then again, you probably view that conquest and genocide as God's divine judgement against the wicked.

Why are you using the argument that anyone who does not agree with gay marriage must also promote genocide?

By the way you do know that Indians used genocide against other Indian tribes don't you? They would raid other tribes, kill the men and take the children and women as slaves.

[hammertime33]

Originally Posted by maja

Good question.

How about the Roman Empire? They thrived for centuries despite allowing gay marriage. When Christianity took hold in the Roman Empire, same sex marriage was banned (in 342 by the Theodosian Code) - followed shortly by the demise of Roman society.