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And what place did he attack? A youth camp for young Labor Party members. He eliminated close to a hundred future leftist voters. Probably a politician or two. Certainly a few influential leaders of the left at various levels.
Sure, since you can understand the logic of attacking leftist governments, you can understand the logic of annihilating a few dozen people who would otherwise spend the next few decades voting for leftist governments?
He knew what he was doing.
It is a possibility, but am not totally sure because he was a huge fan of Churchill, who famously said: "at age 20 if you are not a liberal you have no heart, at age 40 if you are not a conservative you have no brain", so he would have known that killing young people, whose political leanings had not been entirely formed yet would not be logical, nor would it gain him sympathy from society at large.
Even if you are correct, and his intent was to murder young leftists, he had to understand that murdering children is so heinous a crime that it will dry up all support he might have had from those in the center, who make up the largest base of the society he lived in - and would be critical to initiating the efforts he put forth in his manifesto.
Not true at all. Read his manifesto, it is 1,500 pages long and I've gotten through the first 55 pages.
A particularly interesting section can be found on pages 54/55, which describe the pro-arab muslim terror apologist method of public forum debate perfectly.
The 10 steps they use, both here on C-D and elsewhere around the web, he details perfectly.
While issues like immigration and multiculturalism are issues worth discussing, especially the onslaught on muslims on europe which should terrify anyone with all their sharia law and flip outs over cartoons, his choice to shoot a bunch of children, I don't really see what he was thinking how that would further his aims.
I think he will just use his trial to full effect for world attention and with no death penalty he will just be the beginning and there will be others I fear, which as in all terrorism innocent people pay the price.
Where I work as a backstop to the practical stuff we teach, we also teach a class on terrorism and how it all starts. Usually it starts with a concern of some sort that is not addressed and then some wacko decides to take it further. I think because everything is so politically correct they are not debating and addressing these issues as they should and if they don't it will end up like World War 2 and the aftermath, which was the largest mass exodus in recent times of rearranging cultural groups as agreed by the allies to reduce multicultural issues and prevent conflict.
Sorry but the Norwegian terror attacks scream of government false flag terror especially since the DHS just happened to conveniently make a video depicting the average white middle class male as a potential terrorist
Not true at all. Read his manifesto, it is 1,500 pages long and I've gotten through the first 55 pages.
A particularly interesting section can be found on pages 54/55, which describe the pro-arab muslim terror apologist method of public forum debate perfectly.
The 10 steps they use, both here on C-D and elsewhere around the web, he details perfectly.
An individual that commits a crime on this scale (allegedly because, granted, he hasn't been convicted) is a nutjob no matter how well he rationalizes his position.
His ideology cannot be held to blame,because to do that would be like blaming Islam for Muslim terrorists...
If Islam is not to blame for Islamic terrorists obviously right wing ideologies cannot be to blame for right wing terrorists...
Right?
Yes it's interesting the loony left excludes islamic extreme radicalism as having anything to do with islam, but the first time a guy they assume as christian, which from all that has been released so far, he didn't appear to be a big church goer or active christian, somehow anything christian or "right wing" related is to blame. And of course the tea party as well.
Certainly a lot of his issues that he raised have a place in debate, multiculturalism, socialism and islamic fundamentalism is ruining Europe with poor economies and high crime, but the way he chose to go about it was wrong.
Gosh, you forgot one......he didn't blame George Bush! Is it possible? A veiled backhand at the right and they left off George Bush? Oh the Humanity!!!
Right now survivors are giving their testimonies in the media. Teenagers and young adults tell about how they watched their friends being executed, how they feared for their lives, how they tried to help their wounded friends, how they had to run knowing that others were dying. How they played dead in a heap of bodies, hid in caves, up in the trees. How locals in boats dared make it to the island in spite of bullets raining over them, how they managed to rescue all these kids both on the island and in the water. There are now at least 92 deaths from the bombing and the shooting, the number is expected to rise. Over 30 people are critically injured, additional 30 have less severe injuries, many teenagers and young adults are still missing.
Thank you for the update. I had not read about locals setting of to conduct their own rescues by boat. Thank goodness they did and were able to save some who may otherwise have perished. I was stunned to read that this attack by one man went on for at least an hour and a half on that island.
Are there any reports of anyone on the island attempting to overcome this mass murderer and stop him during the attack?
I know plenty of liberal Muslims and former Muslims. I am good friends with about four of them. Good in the fact that I have their phone number, I speak with them on a regular basis, and I party with them. They are of Turkish, Iranian, and Egyptian descent, if you must know. It was actually my Iranian friend who (gleefully) informed me that Osama bin Laden had been killed and even gave me a fist bump in celebration. I also frequent Moroccan, Turkish, and Lebanese restaurants if that matters. There are also several other Muslims I am on good terms with and occasionally socialize with, but not on a regular enough basis to really call friends.
My skepticism of Muslim immigration and dislike of Islam comes from the fact that many Western Muslims are not all that Westernized and the fact that Islamic Fundamentalism is growing in the West. The Muslims I'm friends with are pretty Western and most aren't particularly religious. I am talking about the ones who willfully segregate themselves and indulge in the most extreme forms of Islam. It is no secret that Saudi Arabia spends up to a billion a year to fund Wahhabist mosques and Islamic schools in the West. They also spends many millions to train imams in Saudi Arabia with the hopes that they will go to the West and teach Wahhabism in Western nations. And some of those mosques and imams have had ties to terrorists groups in the West and individuals who carried out hate crimes against gays and Jews in the West.
But, nah, it's all about hatin's some *******s...
There is a difference between you and some other posters. You articulated your opinion in a reasonable manner. I have talked to many on this board who have a huge disdain for all muslims and a lot of them don't even know any muslims.
If you e.g. look at the Turks in Germany: They have been here since the 1960s and none of them has blown themselves up. But somehow some of your fellow Americans want to tell me that exactly these people want to kill me. If they wanted to, how come they haven't done that in the last 50 years?
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