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But those are your beliefs and yours alone. There is nothing wrong with wanting intimacy with sex, or commitment, but for many people, sex can and is enjoyable without either. Also, sex without commitment does not mean that that person cannot or will not ever enter into a committed relationship. Most people go through a phase of promiscuity. It helps define what your interests are, not only in sex, but also in relation to what you want in a partner, committed or otherwise. And really, what does this have to do with homosexuality? Some gays want commitment, others do not, the same as heterosexuals.
I think most people going thru that phase, are doing so, do to peer pressure, or looking for love and acceptance. I speak for the girls, boys are just generally horny, and use the wrong head. That is why I promote women to take charge of the their own birth control, women have all the power. Women also have the power to be treated like a lady, or be treated like a tramp - it's all up to them.
When it's 2 men, it's all about sexual gratification, the relationship is secondary. Hetero's, relationship first, sex second, baby carriage third. We don't all have kids, but the idea behind marriage is family.
The gays I know usually have one partner that is feminine, to play the female role. One is the top one is the bottom. You don't marry to have a family, you marry because you want us to meet your demands, you are giving us the finger, and claiming your right to do so. Yes, you may be granted this right, but that doesn't mean we have to approve. Obama has been elected, but I will never call him my President, he is resident Obama, or other terms. I will never grant him the respect that title carries. Words have meaning - gay marriage is an oxymoron to me.
I don't disagree, but you were trying to compare reactions if the situation were reversed. My point is that it's not really a valid comparison as the reasoning would be very different for each situation.
OK. I realize the gay protesters were making a point by ridiculing the Bachmann clinic and that was their point. In and out, over and done with it.
I don't support the premise of the Bachmann clinic but I certainly do not support the childish behavior displayed by those who invaded the clinic and vandalized it. Had Bachmann supporters done so much as waited outside a GLBT book store and passed out pamphlets encouraging gays to visit the Bachmann clinic for help, the outrage from the entire GLBT population and their liberal supporters would have staggered the imagination and the inevitable protest thread in this forum would generate 500+ angry responses.
Two wrongs do not make a right, but I think these "pray away the gay" people give all conservatives a bad name. It's lunacy to think that being gay is a choice.
Two wrongs do not make a right, but I think these "pray away the gay" people give all conservatives a bad name. It's lunacy to think that being gay is a choice.
I agree on both points. It also pains me when religious people come on here and condemn gays for something they did not choose and cannot change. Jesus, himself, made no recorded statements about homosexuality but, judging from what we do know about him, I believe he would take the "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" approach.
I agree on both points. It also pains me when religious people come on here and condemn gays for something they did not choose and cannot change. Jesus, himself, made no recorded statements about homosexuality but, judging from what we do know about him, I believe he would take the "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" approach.
It's a shame we can't control all those religious people, and tell them how to conduct themselves, so they dare not reflect badly on our politics. Maybe they think we reflect badly upon them.
That's the problem with a free country, GD America!!!!
They don't have these kind of problems in countries with Islamic law.
I think most people going thru that phase, are doing so, do to peer pressure, or looking for love and acceptance.
That's a very simplistic, romanticized version of human sexuality. If I go out and have anonymous sex, it's not because anyone told me that I need to or because society wants me to. I would do it because I have biological urges and it doesn't hurt anyone to engage them.
I speak for the girls, boys are just generally horny, and use the wrong head. That is why I promote women to take charge of the their own birth control, women have all the power. Women also have the power to be treated like a lady, or be treated like a tramp - it's all up to them. When it's 2 men, it's all about sexual gratification, the relationship is secondary.
Based on what? Why couldn't two men have a loving, committed relationship that was based on more than sex? You seem to be conflating the fact that men get horny to being unable to commit.
Hetero's, relationship first, sex second, baby carriage third. We don't all have kids, but the idea behind marriage is family.
Nonsense. Plenty of heterosexuals choose not to have children. And plenty of heterosexual relationships end in adultery.
The gays I know usually have one partner that is feminine, to play the female role. One is the top one is the bottom.
Relationship roles are fluid, but if one is feminine, so what? I'm not sure why someone being more comfortable in a particular role would be any special concern.
You don't marry to have a family, you marry because you want us to meet your demands, you are giving us the finger, and claiming your right to do so. Yes, you may be granted this right, but that doesn't mean we have to approve.
So gay couples that adopt are doing so because why? How does that fit into your theory that gays only get together to satisfy sexual urges and nothing more? What about hospital visitation? Why would they want to see each other in the hospital? Why not just get another hookup if one partner is sick? Why get married at all and live together if all they want to do is sleep around?
Obama has been elected, but I will never call him my President, he is resident Obama, or other terms. I will never grant him the respect that title carries. Words have meaning - gay marriage is an oxymoron to me.
WTF does Obama have to do with this conversation? And sorry, but he IS your president, whether or not you agree with what he does.
It's a shame we can't control all those religious people, and tell them how to conduct themselves, so they dare not reflect badly on our politics. Maybe they think we reflect badly upon them.
That's the problem with a free country, GD America!!!!
They don't have these kind of problems in countries with Islamic law.
I just wish that people with a fixed and immutable faith would realize that their Biblical arguments arguments against homosexuality are largely lost on those who frequent the P&OC Forum. Nevertheless, there are plenty of anti-religion folks here who start contentious arguments about politicians who are open about their faith and their perceived "intrusion" of religion into the public and political arena so those people are not guiltless either.
I think most people going thru that phase, are doing so, do to peer pressure, or looking for love and acceptance. I speak for the girls, boys are just generally horny, and use the wrong head. That is why I promote women to take charge of the their own birth control, women have all the power. Women also have the power to be treated like a lady, or be treated like a tramp - it's all up to them.
When it's 2 men, it's all about sexual gratification, the relationship is secondary. Hetero's, relationship first, sex second, baby carriage third. We don't all have kids, but the idea behind marriage is family.
The gays I know usually have one partner that is feminine, to play the female role. One is the top one is the bottom. You don't marry to have a family, you marry because you want us to meet your demands, you are giving us the finger, and claiming your right to do so. Yes, you may be granted this right, but that doesn't mean we have to approve. Obama has been elected, but I will never call him my President, he is resident Obama, or other terms. I will never grant him the respect that title carries. Words have meaning - gay marriage is an oxymoron to me.
Nothing you said here is correct. Talk about not deserving respect.
WTF does Obama have to do with this conversation? And sorry, but he IS your president, whether or not you agree with what he does.
I'm sorry I can't respond to your questions. I don't know how to turn off the red. When I quote, I just get the last sentence. I'm getting frustrated trying to do this. I'll have to let it ride, I said what I wanted to say.
It's a shame we can't control all those religious people, and tell them how to conduct themselves, so they dare not reflect badly on our politics. Maybe they think we reflect badly upon them.
That's the problem with a free country, GD America!!!!
They don't have these kind of problems in countries with Islamic law.
Ironic post considering how much you conservatives bash all liberals and call us socialist nazis, based on the actions of a few.
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