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Old 07-27-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: North America
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At the risk of looking like a vested party... gold is nothing more than a hedge on inflation.

When you can buy a home for 60,000 that is renting for 750-900 it is a no brainer.

When you can buy a home for 50 cents on the dollar is that too hard to figure out?

I have been working with investors for some time now and they realized this 2 years ago.
Gold AND a 30 year fixed rate mortgage @ 4% are BOTH hedges on inflation...

The difference is that only one of those two things have not inflated over the last 3 years.

It is all about bargains.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:00 AM
 
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Quick question for the reply-ers:

Do you trust the intrinsic value of a precious metal
No, because intrinsic value is based on perception of value, and currently that perception is fear.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:05 AM
 
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No, because intrinsic value is based on perception of value, and currently that perception is fear.
Are you saying that fear is the current driver of value?

If so, then how are the current political machinations of Bernanke, Geithner and Obama a better basis of fiscal rationality than the constancy of a centuries old precious metal?
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:07 AM
 
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At the risk of looking like a vested party... gold is nothing more than a hedge on inflation.

When you can buy a home for 60,000 that is renting for 750-900 it is a no brainer.

When you can buy a home for 50 cents on the dollar is that too hard to figure out?

I have been working with investors for some time now and they realized this 2 years ago.
Yup.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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Great, but I can buy gold in increments I can afford, and cannot buy real estate in increments I can afford.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:12 AM
 
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Are you saying that fear is the current driver of value?
yes.

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If so, then how are the current political machinations of Bernanke, Geithner and Obama a better basis of fiscal rationality than the constancy of a centuries old precious metal?
wow, hyperbole overload. let me decipher that..

"Given the policy decisions of our leaders, how is the dollar a better store of value than gold?"

That's the best translation of your words into a meaningful question, that I can produce.

And the answer to that is that gold cannot be used to invest in productive enterprises, while dollars can.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:16 AM
 
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At the risk of looking like a vested party... gold is nothing more than a hedge on inflation.

When you can buy a home for 60,000 that is renting for 750-900 it is a no brainer.

When you can buy a home for 50 cents on the dollar is that too hard to figure out?

I have been working with investors for some time now and they realized this 2 years ago.

I realized this also but I can't buy a home. How can I protect/hedge against the screwing I expect to receive?
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:19 AM
 
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Owning a home is going to become largely stratified and hereditary. New homeowners will largely be those who inherit, and kids born today will mostly not be homeowners unless their parents were.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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Owning a home is going to become largely stratified and hereditary. New homeowners will largely be those who inherit, and kids born today will mostly not be homeowners unless their parents were.
This isn't true. You can buy a decent 2br condo today (post-crash prices) near Orlando, FL for $65,000. That comes out to under $400/mo. If you rent out one bedroom, you are able to buy a place for less than it costs to rent. The market tends to regulate itself. While the housing crash was devastating, it did open the door for many people to afford to buy their first home.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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yes.



wow, hyperbole overload. let me decipher that..

"Given the policy decisions of our leaders, how is the dollar a better store of value than gold?"

That's the best translation of your words into a meaningful question, that I can produce.

And the answer to that is that gold cannot be used to invest in productive enterprises, while dollars can.
Hyperbole | Define Hyperbole at Dictionary.com

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–noun Rhetoric .
1.
obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2.
an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”
Unless the three men I mentioned are not, in fact, in charge of our money, I don't believe I used hyperbole (as it is defined).

"Squandering" is not a productive enterprise.

"Dollars" are a medium of exchange, not a store of value.
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