How come the small government deficit cutting Tea Party Republicans don't end the $45 billion War on Drugs? (Iran, John Edwards)
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I've read the posts on this thread. I see a great deal of posturing and complaining but nothing to indicate any of the tea parties have addressed this issue. If I've overlooked something please, feel free to point it out.
Perhaps you missed the part where tea party supporters want drug users to be locked up and sent up the river. I suppose this doesn't qualify as taking a stance and is merely posturing.
No I understand perfectly. You want drug cartels and gangs to be in charge of the drug trade. They don't abide by any regulations. Decriminalizing drugs would Re-Regulate drugs putting risk and liability back in the drug trade.
No, if this country did a decent job of protecting our borders, we wouldn't have to worry about the cartels. Too bad Obama thought it would be a good idea to arm the cartels. A friend of mine had a family member kidnapped, taken to Juarez and executed yesterday. The victim's family members have been warned to leave the city because there is a retribution hit out on all family members of the victim.
Criminalization leads to high prices for drugs which gives an incentive for drug gangs to operate which endangers the general public.
Legalization leads to people committing crimes to buy the drugs legally which endangers the general public. Do you think most drug addicts have jobs and paychecks to purchase drugs?
No, if this country did a decent job of protecting our borders, we wouldn't have to worry about the cartels. Too bad Obama thought it would be a good idea to arm the cartels. A friend of mine had a family member kidnapped, taken to Juarez and executed yesterday. The victim's family members have been warned to leave the city because there is a retribution hit out on all family members of the victim.
So drug use is Obama's fault?
By the way, why would someone kidnap someone in the US, smuggle them back to Mexico and execute them in Mexico. Wouldn't it be easier to just kill them in the US?
I'm not a drug lord, but it makes more sense, just saying.
But Prohibition creates high prices for users and high profits for bad guys. Ending Prohibition would reduce prices, and probably reduce crime.
It would reduce prices and increase availability and increase usage.
This is from the mr obama's doj. that would be the one that is presently allowing marijuana to be sold out of storefronts in california. BTW, marijuana sales in california are virtually unregulated at this time. What makes you think the mexican drug lords aren't selling their ware thru these selfsame storefronts?
..........The Netherlands has led Europe in the liberalization of drug policy. “Coffee shops” began to emerge throughout the Netherlands in 1976, offering marijuana products for sale. Possession and sale of marijuana are not legal, but coffee shops are permitted to operate and sell marijuana under certain restrictions, including a limit of no more than 5 grams sold to a person at any one time, no alcohol or hard drugs, no minors, and no advertising. In the Netherlands, it is illegal to sell or possess marijuana products. So coffee shop operators must purchase their marijuana products from illegal drug trafficking organizations.Apparently, there has been some public dissatisfaction with the government’s policy. Recently the Dutch government began considering scaling back the quantity of marijuana available in coffee shops from 5 to 3 grams.
Furthermore, drug abuse has increased in the Netherlands. From 1984 to 1996, marijuana use among 18-25 year olds in Holland increased twofold. Since legalization of marijuana, heroin addiction levels in Holland have tripled and perhaps even quadrupled by some estimates.
The increasing use of marijuana is responsible for more than increased crime. It has widespread social implications as well. The head of Holland’s best-known drug abuse rehabilitation center has described what the new drug culture has created: The strong form of marijuana that most of the young people smoke, he says, produces “a chronically passive individual—someone who is lazy, who doesn’t want to take initiatives, doesn’t want to be active—the kid who’d prefer to lie in bed with a joint in the morning rather than getting up and doing something.”
Marijuana is not the only illegal drug to find a home in the Netherlands. The club drug commonly referred to as Ecstasy (3, 4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine or MDMA) also has strong roots in the Netherlands. The majority of the world’s Ecstasy is produced in clandestine laboratories in the Netherlands and, to a lesser extent, Belgium............
By the way, why would someone kidnap someone in the US, smuggle them back to Mexico and execute them in Mexico. Wouldn't it be easier to just kill them in the US?
I'm not a drug lord, but it makes more sense, just saying.
Says the non-drug lord. Kidnapping is just one of the little things your friendly mexican drug lords are "into."
By the way, why would someone kidnap someone in the US, smuggle them back to Mexico and execute them in Mexico. Wouldn't it be easier to just kill them in the US?
I'm not a drug lord, but it makes more sense, just saying.
Reading is fundamental. I never said drug use was Obama's fault. I said arming the cartel was Obama's fault. There is no way the cartels will commit murders on this side of the border if they can help it. You don't have to smuggle a victim into Mexico.
Perhaps you missed the part where tea party supporters want drug users to be locked up and sent up the river. I suppose this doesn't qualify as taking a stance and is merely posturing.
Ok, just which post was that? do you have a linky?
Ok, just which post was that? do you have a linky?
End game
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There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods, which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too.
Tea partier Rush Limbaugh
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Originally Posted by pommysmommy
I want people to do jail time for drugs that are not for medicinal purposes, or drugs obtained without a doctor's prescription because they lead to crime which endangers the general public.
Legalization leads to people committing crimes to buy the drugs legally which endangers the general public. Do you think most drug addicts have jobs and paychecks to purchase drugs?
I have a feeling you don't know many drug addicts/users and you probably watch too much TV. Most drugs users are not your stereotypical homeless bum living on the street. They seem to be perfectly normal and have jobs, families, and social lives. They have the money to buy the drugs.
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