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The chart doesn't show 2007 - but that deficit was $161 BILLION...that seemed to bother the Left...I can't imagine what they think with obama's $1.5 TRILLION.
You use two incomparable metrics. You claim that Bush's tax-cuts increased revenue and use deficit numbers to prove it. Why don't you use revenue numbers, as I have, to prove it? Are you trying to say that cutting taxes in 2001 and 2004 skipped over all those years to suddenly show up in 2007? You can't be saying that because that would be idiotic. The reality is that 2007 revenue numbers aren't much over 2000 numbers, with seven years of added inflation and population growth. Apart from proving that the Bush tax-cuts increased revenue, it's a solid indication that they cut revenue and it took seven years of added inflation and population growth just to catch up.
Now, you blame Obama for a $1.5 trillion deficit but two weeks before Obama slept in the WH for the first time, the CBO was already predicting a $1.2 trillion deficit for 2009. Surely, you can't blame Obama for something that happened before he wasn't even president.
What this indicates is false blame. Instead of blaming Obama, the culprits are Bush policies coming home to roost, which caused the economy to fall. Bu, your main thesis is that Obama increased government. Well, there are fewer federal employees now than in 2000. There are no new federal programs. The AARA is winding down and the ACA hasn't kicked in. Again, if Obama increased spending this year, where are the new federal programs?
Where is Joe "summer of recovery" Biden on all this???? Somebody put a muzzle on the man?????????...for once. If Obama doesnt have a plan, surley Biden does......crickets from the VP???...how odd
Where is Joe "summer of recovery" Biden on all this???? Somebody put a muzzle on the man?????????...for once. If Obama doesnt have a plan, surley Biden does......crickets from the VP???...how odd
I read somewhere yesterday that Biden and McConnell have been off in a corner working on a compromise but they are waiting for all this other crap to play out first. Then when the dust settles they would put their plan on the table.
For the good of the country, Obama and Democrats should sign the Boehner plan if it gets out of the House. The House GOP is unwilling to compromise and will let the country suffer unless they get their way, so Democrats need to take the high road and be the adults.
By all means for the good of the country, Obama should cower before the House GOP least they make us suffer if they don’t get their way. That’s just pathetic. Governing by extortion is no way to run a country.
If he caves in again the Republicans would know that they’d be able to run roughshod over him for as long as he‘s in the White House. No, the way to go is invoking the 14th. Numerous Democratic leaders have suggested it, including former President Clinton, who would do so “without hesitation”. And he wouldn't be the first President to do so.
If GW can dig up a so-called ‘attorney’ unscrupulous enough to grant him the authority to use the same torture technique we executed Japanese soldiers for using on us, then why the hell can’t Obama scrounge up his own shyster to ok the use of the 14th Amendment?
Who cares if it’s ultimately declared unconstitutional, by then the election would be over and however slim the chance, Congress might be in Democratic hands. His skill as a negotiator has been painfully obvious for a while and so far it seems that this man has no fight in him whatsoever.
If Boehner can't get the Republican Caucus in the House to pass HIS OWN BILL he shouild resign as Speaker of the House.
I'm wondering if Boehner might cut his losses with the Tea party people and marginalize them by basically forgetting about them. Rework the bill to one that both moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans can support. Remove the approx 60 Tea party members from the equation and that leaves 375 House members ro get the 218 votes needed to pass the bill. And if it is good enough to get through the House, Harry Reid should get it through the Senate. No one would be truly happy, but it would get the job done. As a bonus, it would show the Tea Party reps that they may have won some seats, but they do not run the country.
There just might be enough responsible people left around there to get it done. You never know.
For the good of the country, Obama and Democrats should sign the Boehner plan if it gets out of the House. The House GOP is unwilling to compromise and will let the country suffer unless they get their way, so Democrats need to take the high road and be the adults.
How can Obama sign a bill that is declared DOA by the head man in the Senate? Only after the Senate passes a bill out of the HOuse can the President sign it.
No this country needs to learn the hard way about electing tea party people. Even if it means Obama loses if the tea party is destroyed and some of them go to jail for life it will be worth it.
Is there a chance you could list some of the heinous crimes committed by those horrid Tea Party people that would bring life sentences? I think not but then . . . . . . .
I disagree. If the house passes the bill, then the senate can clean it up so that there is something that the pres. can sign.
I don't think it is going to make it out of the house because of the lunatic fringe in the Republican house...Tea baggers.
I don't think you know how that law making works. If the House passes a bill and the Senate changes even one word then a Conference Committee has to meet and consider how to make all the changes acceptable in each house. You just indicated that you don't really know sheeeeeit about how that law making works.
By all means for the good of the country, Obama should cower before the House GOP least they make us suffer if they don’t get their way. That’s just pathetic. Governing by extortion is no way to run a country.
If he caves in again the Republicans would know that they’d be able to run roughshod over him for as long as he‘s in the White House. No, the way to go is invoking the 14th. Numerous Democratic leaders have suggested it, including former President Clinton, who would do so “without hesitation”. And he wouldn't be the first President to do so.
[font=Verdana]If GW can dig up a so-called ‘attorney’ unscrupulous enough to grant him the authority to use the same torture technique we executed Japanese soldiers for using on us, then
His skill as a negotiator has been painfully obvious for a while and so far it seems that this man has no fight in him whatsoever.
Is there a chance that you stated the whole problem in your post whan you said that crap about the 14th amendment? I think you did but will say first that Obama said his people had studied the 14th Amendment and found little to indicate they could get by with that.
Now, you said, why the hell can’t Obama scrounge up his own shyster to ok the use of the 14th Amendment?
Then you followed that with:
Who cares if it’s ultimately declared unconstitutional, by then the election would be over and however slim the chance, Congress might be in Democratic hands.
You put the reason for all this fighting right out there and even admitted that you think that although things are corrupt and dishonest nobody cares if they get the result they want. That has a Nasty Nancy Pelosi sound to it.
I'm wondering if Boehner might cut his losses with the Tea party people and marginalize them by basically forgetting about them. Rework the bill to one that both moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans can support. Remove the approx 60 Tea party members from the equation and that leaves 375 House members ro get the 218 votes needed to pass the bill. And if it is good enough to get through the House, Harry Reid should get it through the Senate. No one would be truly happy, but it would get the job done. As a bonus, it would show the Tea Party reps that they may have won some seats, but they do not run the country.
There just might be enough responsible people left around there to get it done. You never know.
Boehner has no desire to give up his position and that would do it for him. He may be a bit too progressive but he isn't that bad.
Do you really think that all those Republicans you mention will want to go along with the Dems and vice versa? I think you are more naive than most here from the sound of that.
Boehner knows he will lose any control he ever had over the conference playing games like that even if you don't.
Reid has declared Boehner's bill DOA like all the other money bills the House has sent over to his house lately. Why would Boehner want to do what you suggest with Reid saying those words?
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