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The reason college is so expensive is BECAUSE the government backed loans exist and the schools know that they will get their tuition money. So they have no qualms about hiking up tuition costs.
If government backed student loans weren't available anymore, colleges would have no choice but to lower their tuition costs. They aren't going to tell 80% of their student body they can't go to school there because they can't afford the tuition. if they did that, it isn't like they'd be able to replace the students with new students who could afford to pay.
If you are wanting college tuition costs to come back down to earth, you want to GET RID of government backed tuition programs. Then schools would have to lower their tuition cpsts In the late 70's you could go to an Ivy league college for around $5000 per year. A state school would be far less than that. If anything the quality of a college education isn't anywhere near as good as it was then--- so it shouldn't cost any more than it did then.
I agree. I don't want to get rid of the programs completely but they should be reserved for the truly needy and deserving.
There are many ways to afford college education without having someone else pay for it. Work, loans, go to a community college. I found a way, as did most of my friends.
I got a number of grants from private groups like the American Legion, a Rotary Club, an international business organization. Lot's of money out there. I'd say for every 12-14 applications I filed I got a grant.
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This has been discussed both on the parenting and education forums. People post stuff like this, but the few hiring mangers who post say that such work is irrelevant.
Of course it isn't. Merit, honor, dignity, commitment and personal sacrifice mean nothing to *******s.
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I have been on hiring committees myself, and we never look at whether the applicant put him/herself through nursing school, or what kind of jobs s/he had while in nursing school.
But if it gets you an interview, and you expound on that in your interview and it gets you to the hiring committee, then I guess it was worth it.
Maybe you should start taking that into consideration.
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Few people have a "skill set" to make $20/hr. at age 18-19.
If they went to vocational school instead of high school and took welding or auto repair/collision repair they can.
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I already provided the link that shows that you are mistaken as to who qualifies for the grants.
States hand out grants as well. You might want to check there.
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There is absolutely nothing to justify the huge tuition rate hikes.
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The latest Repub mantra. I think tuition has gone up b/c fewer in academia are willing to work for low wages any more.
You guys actually might want to go to a campus for a few minutes.
Technology is not free. It costs $Millions to wire campuses for Wi-Fi and internet, and it costs $Millions more to maintain the IT network and system.
Those were expenses that did NOT exist 20-30 years ago.
My first dorm room was NOT wired for cable television and it was NOT wired for internet and it was NOT wired for Wi-Fi and the classrooms were NOT wired for cable and they were NOT wired for internet and they were NOT wired for Wi-Fi and they did NOT have power sources for laptops and notebook computers and they did NOT have integrated wireless audio-visual.
My last office and classroom on campus had all of that and I could sit in my apartment a mile away from campus and log in using Wi-Fi and post grades and assignments on Blackboard (which didn't exist the first time I attended university).
Construction is a big chunk of university budgets too:
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But the System’s increased spending by more than a billion to $7 billion on campus improvements like new buildings and dorms. University System spokesman John Millsaps says that's been needed.
15 Semester Hours average
20 Hours Unpaid Internship per week
32 Hours Part Time Job per week
This summarized my last two years in college. For those who make excuses that there is no time to work while in college, you're simply full of crap.
The only caveat that I subscribe to is that jobs are scarce.
And you walked up hill through the snow to get to college, right? Sorry, I don't believe you. I worked 32 hours per week through the last two years of my undergrad and that pretty much stretched me to the limit, time wise.
In other words, you're full of it.
The absolute worst thing going on right now as states balance their budgets are the huge chunks being taken out of education. People who advocate to save money by slashing education are ignorant at best, and unpatriotic at worst. You're effectively gutting the next generation.
This thread is funny, with Republicans romanticizing the good ol' days of the 1930s. No wonder they want to go back in time. They like the idea of everyone (but them) living in a world of sh*t.
There is a huge problem with the cost of education. 35 years ago, five hours of my wages as an 18 year old bought one credit hour's tuition at the local state college. The facilities were sparse, to say the least, but if you have a passionate professor and a desire to learn, who cares if the building is concrete block with no windows?
But government money flowed in, facilities blossomed into palaces, and no kid anywhere can get a credit hour of tuition on five hours labor.
So is the answer to keep on pouring in government money? Maybe not.
both my daughters worked their way through college.one graduated in 2006 and is a teacher and already paid off her 8000 debt the other got her masters last year and owes about 20 grand which is manageable as she has a good job it can be done. I am a single parent who works const so not much help there.when my oldest started college most pell grants went to prisoners as they were most qualified with no income or assets so we got none. the poster who owes 80,000 and is a teacher made a very lot of mistakes my daughter totaled less than 20 grand and payed most of it cash by working as a waitress
I agree. I don't want to get rid of the programs completely but they should be reserved for the truly needy and deserving.
But they shouldn't be through GOVERNMENT. Let the schools offer them the way they did when I went to college. Government should do NOTHING but manage the Military. The private sector (or state government) should do everything else.
Student loans for more than a few thousand dollars shouldn't even be available to students who are seeking an undergraduate education -- especially for students majoring in liberal arts. This is because someone graduating from college with a B.A. degree and a major in Communications with no work experience in Commmunications has no guarantee they will ever land a job in that field to pay off the $50k debt they are in. It isn't a good plan to start off as an adult $50k in debt. I've heard of kids who after only 4 years of undergraduate school are over $100k in debt!
A BETTER plan would be to get an internship with a company in a field you like after high school. If it is in communications, go work at a television or radio station. Offer to VOLUNTEER for a few months just to get experience. Chances are if they don't offer to pay you initially, they will be impressed you want to work there badly enough you'll work for free and after a short while will start paying you. As you gain experience you can find out what education you will really NEED to advance. It may be the company will PAY for part or ALL of your education.
This is not only the smart (low cost) way to get an education but also to get into a career.
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