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Old 08-02-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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A liberal is someone who thinks that government can play a positive role in society--specifically in protecting certain groups (elderly, disabled, minorities, etc) from the abuses of others. Most conservatives do not believe Government can do this. That is the difference between liberals and conservatives.
........some think Obama can create jobs .............We Have been deceived at every turn..........to think that's going to change is insane.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I was asking a question. Do you think self-defined "liberals" in America have a philosophy that is not essentially collectivist, whether Marxist, Socialist, Communist, in everything but name?

Sorry, can't resist hammering away at the strange way in which tyrannical philosophies adopt pro-freedom labels such as "liberal". There is nothing liberal about economic tyrants. Do you agree?
Some. I can't make a blanket statement for everyone.

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then you have no idea what the american liberal has become

its not hard to undersatnd
You have a difficult time grasping that just based off the Liberal idea that low income families should get welfare excludes them from the Socialist title.

Socialists want higher wages so such things are unnecessary.

You writings is when it's riddled with spelling errors.
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Old 08-02-2011, 02:22 PM
 
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Those who liberally interpret the Constitution of the United States to mean something other than the intent of its authors and our founders. Those who believe the government has unlimited powers under the so-called "general welfare" clause. Those who believe that special groups deserve special rights and special distributions of wealth (originating from taking of $$ from individuals) as opposed to the law applying to all regardless of income, color, ethnicity, religion, gender or behavioral preferences. Those who believe freedom of speech is limited to that which is "politically correct" or "sensitive".
That's funny, because that description correctly describes a good many conservatives.

You're confused.
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