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View Poll Results: Will doctors be forced to receive Medicare patients as a condition to getting licensed?
Yes 27 54.00%
No 18 36.00%
Pie 5 10.00%
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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I got a lot of lulz from another thread where neo-progs suggested that doctors are incapable of transitioning to another related field if they wish to quit, as if they're some sort of savant idiot.
A fair days pay for a fair days work........... NEVER!
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Exactly what do Americans today know about "reasonable rates" when they are being ripped off by Doctors and Insurance companies everyday.
My Wife's Aunt told me that years ago health care was really affordable and the system worked. She is disgusted at how Health Care in the USA has now turned into a "cash cow" for Doctors and Insurance companies at the expense and even death of many many many Americans. It is now probably the most expensive health system in the world per capita.
It's the price we pay for being able to sue our doctors, a privilege not as readily available in Europe and other countries.
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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Agree to disagree. There is a local doctor in Apex, NC who does not take insurance and charges very reasonable rates. He is not beholden to any insurance bureaucracy or government mandate.
It's funny that you call it Government mandate. I believe that is true however, make no mistake insurance companies have their mandates too, and plenty of them. So much so that at one time my wife was denied care from a major insurance company because of these HMO mandates. It was so bad this same major company had the gull to state they never heard of my wife's condition. The very best doctors who treat my wife's condition do not except insurance because of their mandates.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:00 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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They are elite.

What we have allowed is for the recipient class to act like they are entitled to the same privileges as the provider class.
That is definitely part of the cultural mindset problem in this country, wh/ has led to an entitlement mentality.

But my point about physicians, specifically, is that the cost of healthcare in this country has been greatly inflated due to profit-taking, by every sector involved in healthcare, starting with pharma, and continuing thru/ technology and medical supplies and physicians - and ending with hospitals.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:01 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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The problem is not the DOCTORS,....the problem is the government medical programs and how they are administered. Physicians do not turn down patients that help pay the overhead,...but will limit those who are too costly to treat due to low reimbursement and cumbersome paperwork.
That definitely is a big contributing factor.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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A fair days pay for a fair days work........... NEVER!
What is fair to you?
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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Is their education subsidized by the govt?
Yes, it is. Law schools get their funding from federally subsidized student loans.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:03 AM
 
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It's the price we pay for being able to sue our doctors, a privilege not as readily available in Europe and other countries.
Well, American physicians have been forced to practice "defensive" healthcare, over-ordering expensive tests and office visits, and referrals to specialists, as a way of trying to cover themselves b/c we have become a litigious society.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:04 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Well, American physicians have been forced to practice "defensive" healthcare, over-ordering expensive tests and office visits, and referrals to specialists, as a way of trying to cover themselves b/c we have become a litigious society.
Very true.......... This must be addressed too.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:05 AM
 
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1. No it doesn't, if they accepted the Medicare funded education.
A residency is not an "education". There is on-the-job training, but they work for a living, they are not students. Residency is not medical school.

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Sort of like if the military pays your education, you owe them a certain amount of time.
No, nothing at all like that, because residency is not schooling, and because the hospital is getting that subsidy ... not the doctors.

Medicare is getting a HUGE bargain if you ask me, by paying these doctors $50k - 70k / year while they work 100 hours a week in a hospital, so they can eventually pay off the quarter-million dollars worth of student loans they needed to take on, to get into medical school.

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3. Who would fund medical residencies if not Medicare? Any suggestions?
Hospitals would probably pass that cost onto their patients.
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