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Old 08-01-2011, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Yes we should all expect our bosses to pay our rent....great idea!
Has nothing to do with this thread, but nice try!
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:12 PM
 
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An impropriety you say? Is Joe Biden involved just a teeny bit? Has he never done anything just a bit questionable concerning law and ethics?
I said it *could* be an impropriety should Biden be overcharging for rent. It doesn't seem to be the case. Do we really care who gets the rent money so long as the rent amount is fair market value? I'll answer that question:

No, I don't care and I don't care who does it so long as they aren't overcharging and the price is fair. Even if DICK Cheney did it, I wouldn't give a rat's backside.

You--yes, you care but only because someone you don't like is doing something that you think you can jump on and chew up.

Foolish that I even though anyone would want to discuss all sides of the story.

I'll let you folks go back to your regularly schedule pitbull match. You can throw another puppy in the ring by discussing Michelle Obama's trips.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Even if DICK Cheney did it
Why have someone's first name only in all caps?
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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You don't need to hit your head. You have been arguing the validity of services above saying that maybe we should charge officials for the service so they wouldn't take trips, etc. As you stated, there is no point in arguing that, it is a done deal. It is mandated so why bring that up.

At any rate, I guess this doesn't bother me. The article I read stated the Biden's annual combined income is around $389,000 per year. Part of that reported income is the rent he can earn from a tenant on that property. I don't see why he should have to forgo the income on that property because he is mandated by law to have SS protection. Heck, even if he voluntarily wanted the service I would feel no differently. They have to rent from someone and it is probably easier on the agents to be as close to their client as possible. It works for them and Biden still gets his rent money. So long as he is not overinflating the rent charge, which he is not as another tenant willingly paid it last year, then there seems to be nothing improper about it.

I can certainly see where an impropriety *could* occur and I would hope that someone is monitoring the rate being charged so that this does not happen.
He should have refused the offer for the simple reason that it just doesn't look good.
At the very most he should simply receive a tax break in lieu of rent. He should not be making a profit.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:19 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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He should have refused the offer for the simple reason that it just doesn't look good.
At the very most he should simply receive a tax break in lieu of rent. He should not be making a profit.
But you will agree - it isn't illegal.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:21 PM
 
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I get what others are saying about justifying the payment of rent. But, it is his home, he is being protected and not being charged for that so why not do the honorable thing and not charge rent? It would be more acceptable for the Secret Service to pay Utilities, but it appears that he isn't paying for the house so why make additional income with it? Especially when you are in a recession, it would be the responsible thing to do...but then again, Biden isn't exactly about doing what is right or what looks best for PR. I don't think he should profit off those protecting him and find the practice in poor taste.

In this day and age, our public officials need to be acting more responsibly with our money...that will get you votes.
It's an INCOME property. Biden is not rich. What you are asking is that he should provide lodging at HIS expense to the Secret Service. Ask yourself, does President Bush provide lodging at HIS expense for the detail that guards him? Does Clinton? Does Carter? The answer is no.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:23 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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It's an INCOME property. Biden is not rich. What you are asking is that he should provide lodging at HIS expense to the Secret Service. Ask yourself, does President Bush provide lodging at HIS expense for the detail that guards him? Does Clinton? Does Carter? The answer is no.
No,that is not what folks are saying.

They are not saying Biden should have to pay for his detail. They are saying his detail shouldn't have to pay him rent.

However, seems to me they would be paying SOMEONE rent . . . just turns out Biden had the property available. It might look a little iffy to some folks, but it doesn't seem he is doing anything illegal.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's an INCOME property. Biden is not rich. What you are asking is that he should provide lodging at HIS expense to the Secret Service. Ask yourself, does President Bush provide lodging at HIS expense for the detail that guards him? Does Clinton? Does Carter? The answer is no.
Yes he is..he makes more than $250K per year.
He's RICH by his own adminstration's definition.

Tax the heck out of him because he's rich.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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I've often wondered how many members of Congress have an ownership position in the buildings they lease for their political office.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:26 PM
 
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No,that is not what folks are saying.

They are not saying Biden should have to pay for his detail. They are saying his detail shouldn't have to pay him rent.

However, seems to me they would be paying SOMEONE rent . . . just turns out Biden had the property available. It might look a little iffy to some folks, but it doesn't seem he is doing anything illegal.
If it's a rental, and Biden cannot collect the rental income, then it's costing him, ie he's paying for it. Did Cheney pay to put up his security detail?
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