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View Poll Results: Are our best days behind us?
Yes 50 69.44%
No 22 30.56%
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:28 PM
 
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Keep waiting! For years I've been waiting for the Mississippi River to flow backwards. I'm still waiting.
The New Madrid Fault is 6 times bigger than the San Andreas Fault.... be careful what you wish for you might be swimming with the fishy's soon...Better days are coming the 2012 election is coming up soon.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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The US has been on a path toward destruction since the 1930s. As has been predicted 180 years ago, any democracy is doomed when citizens learn they can vote themselves the largess from the public treasury.

Alexis de Tocqueville once said that "the American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." He went on to say "[Democracy] can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy."

It does not get any "looser" than the previous Congress, where in four years they could not pass a single budget, but had absolutely no problem with trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see. There is no way out of this mess, it will continue to get worse because we continue to elect fiscally irresponsible children. Kiss the US goodbye, because we are most likely the last generation that will remember how it used to be and what it meant to be an American. We have already bankrupted future generations.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:42 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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All nations fall....the USA is no different.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:52 PM
 
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All nations fall....the USA is no different.
ABSOLUTELY. The founding Fathers based the US government on the Roman model. Rome fell, the US is bound to.

Why would the Founding Fathers do this? I think they knew that they wouldn't live to see the collapse. I bet the Founding Fathers saw future generations of Americans as fools!

Could it be that American self centredness existed back in the late 1700s?
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The children of this countries greatest generation has to be asking "what have we done"

By the way...thanks for that
Ha-ha...+1...Greatest refers to the number of them, not their contrbutions...
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:56 PM
 
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So much pessimism on this board. America is still an economic powerhouse, people still dream of coming here, we are still the standard for freedom and liberty in the world. Our democracy may be imperfect, but it is still dynamic and vibrant.

If you think America's best days are behind us, then you are a quitter. Please leave your citizenship at the border as you leave for somewhere you think may be better.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Nah, we'll right the ship.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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I think the next 10-30 years are going to be very bumpy...

-HUGE bills coming due.

-Continued leveling of the global playing field. Where are american students going to be in that pack? With a $50,000 sociology degree?

-The US Dollar standard and the bond market. Boy. There are going to be huge gyrations going forward. Are we going to look like Argentina in 30 years?

-Immigrants coming to the US. I don't think the US will have a lock on that, the way we did from 1900 to 1970 or 2000.

-The whole competitive landscape. China is leaving us in the dust (figuretively) with things like highspeed rail (even after their latest crashes). One country is spending hundreds of billions on infrastructure. The other is spending that money on foreign wars. Who's going to win in the longrun?
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:39 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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We can only hope, i am one who truly would like to believe that, i want our Country strong once again, and being the powerhouse we once were.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:42 AM
 
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We can only hope, i am one who truly would like to believe that, i want our Country strong once again, and being the powerhouse we once were.
The only way America can be strong again is if the past values can be replaced and attitudes readjusted. Both points won't happen.

What goes UP must come DOWN.

America, you are gonna be in hell from now til 50 years into the future.

You thought you were so good, but in the end I'll watch the collapse and laugh my Limey ass off all the way!
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