NatGeo: Russia's Toughest Prisons (unemployment, Reagan, serial killers, radical)
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Last night I watched on National Geographic a show about Russia's prison system. They seem to have it down pat on how to deal with criminals - no yard socialization time, no let's-get-together-and-play-cards, no opportunities to form ties with other gang members, no libraries from which to persue new ways to tie up the court system. In one instance, prisoners are moved about the facility in a stress position - face down with arms twisted - to discourage problems or any familiarity of how the facility is arranged. Prisoneers answer guards with "Yes, sir!" rather than the "F**k You!" as shown in prisons here where inmates challenge guard authority. Prisons there are properly used for the purpose of punishing those who commit crimes rather than the social engineering illusion of "rehabilitation". These seem to be places where the rehab takes the form of making it such a terrrible place that men would do anything to avoid coming back to such a place. And gang problems, so prevalent in the US prison system, seemed nonexistant.
The US "Justice" system could take a lesson here. And some criminals could also.
"For the first time, three prisons across Russia unlock their doors to an international film crew. From a Siberian prison camp where temperatures plummet to 50 below to the highest security prison, where cannibals, terrorists and serial killers will live out the rest of their days, caged like animals. And, a pass inside infamous Vladimir Central — at over 200 years old, it’s held an estimated one million inmates. Inside Black Dolphin, a cannibal talks openly about his crime, divulging how he boiled, fried and ate his murder victim. In Vladimir Central, a convict opens up about killing his brother-in-law for disturbing his daughter’s peaceful night’s sleep. And inside a Siberian prison camp, we meet two friends about to go their separate ways when one gets paroled."
Last night I watched on National Geographic a show about Russia's prison system. They seem to have it down pat on how to deal with criminals - no yard socialization time, no let's-get-together-and-play-cards, no opportunities to form ties with other gang members, no libraries from which to persue new ways to tie up the court system. In one instance, prisoners are moved about the facility in a stress position - face down with arms twisted - to discourage problems or any familiarity of how the facility is arranged. Prisoneers answer guards with "Yes, sir!" rather than the "F**k You!" as shown in prisons here where inmates challenge guard authority. Prisons there are properly used for the purpose of punishing those who commit crimes rather than the social engineering illusion of "rehabilitation". These seem to be places where the rehab takes the form of making it such a terrrible place that men would do anything to avoid coming back to such a place. And gang problems, so prevalent in the US prison system, seemed nonexistant.
The US "Justice" system could take a lesson here. And some criminals could also.
"For the first time, three prisons across Russia unlock their doors to an international film crew. From a Siberian prison camp where temperatures plummet to 50 below to the highest security prison, where cannibals, terrorists and serial killers will live out the rest of their days, caged like animals. And, a pass inside infamous Vladimir Central — at over 200 years old, it’s held an estimated one million inmates. Inside Black Dolphin, a cannibal talks openly about his crime, divulging how he boiled, fried and ate his murder victim. In Vladimir Central, a convict opens up about killing his brother-in-law for disturbing his daughter’s peaceful night’s sleep. And inside a Siberian prison camp, we meet two friends about to go their separate ways when one gets paroled."
Last night I watched on National Geographic a show about Russia's prison system. They seem to have it down pat on how to deal with criminals - no yard socialization time, no let's-get-together-and-play-cards, no opportunities to form ties with other gang members, no libraries from which to persue new ways to tie up the court system. In one instance, prisoners are moved about the facility in a stress position - face down with arms twisted - to discourage problems or any familiarity of how the facility is arranged. Prisoneers answer guards with "Yes, sir!" rather than the "F**k You!" as shown in prisons here where inmates challenge guard authority. Prisons there are properly used for the purpose of punishing those who commit crimes rather than the social engineering illusion of "rehabilitation". These seem to be places where the rehab takes the form of making it such a terrrible place that men would do anything to avoid coming back to such a place. And gang problems, so prevalent in the US prison system, seemed nonexistant.
The US "Justice" system could take a lesson here. And some criminals could also.
"For the first time, three prisons across Russia unlock their doors to an international film crew. From a Siberian prison camp where temperatures plummet to 50 below to the highest security prison, where cannibals, terrorists and serial killers will live out the rest of their days, caged like animals. And, a pass inside infamous Vladimir Central — at over 200 years old, it’s held an estimated one million inmates. Inside Black Dolphin, a cannibal talks openly about his crime, divulging how he boiled, fried and ate his murder victim. In Vladimir Central, a convict opens up about killing his brother-in-law for disturbing his daughter’s peaceful night’s sleep. And inside a Siberian prison camp, we meet two friends about to go their separate ways when one gets paroled."
Gee, there used to be a time when conservatives deplored the Gulag and pointed to it as a black mark against Soviet/Russian society.
I don't think Ronald Reagan would have rejoiced over Russian prison conditions.
Weigh it against the US system where gangs are such a problem. How is it that inmates are allowed opportunity to socialize enough to form/continue gang affiliations? How is it that Muslim imams are allowed contact which they use for recruitment and radicalization? What was shown was that in the prisons, there is no dining hall, prisoners are sustained on a diet consisting mainly of bread and soup served within their cell-in-a-cell. Beds are locked in an upright position all day and convicts are not permitted to lie in them except for sleeping. There was no evidence of "classes" or "therapy time" or inmates tattooing one another.
Weigh it against the US system where gangs are such a problem. How is it that inmates are allowed opportunity to socialize enough to form/continue gang affiliations? How is it that Muslim imams are allowed contact which they use for recruitment and radicalization? What was shown was that in the prisons, there is no dining hall, prisoners are sustained on a diet consisting mainly of bread and soup served within their cell-in-a-cell. Beds are locked in an upright position all day and convicts are not permitted to lie in them except for sleeping. There was no evidence of "classes" or "therapy time" or inmates tattooing one another.
You don't lose all your constitutional rights in prison. Plenty of people are in prison for petty non violent offenses.
Muslim Imams are allowed contact for the same reason every other religious affiliation is allowed contact. The First Amendment Free Exercise Clause.
Weigh it against the US system where gangs are such a problem. How is it that inmates are allowed opportunity to socialize enough to form/continue gang affiliations? How is it that Muslim imams are allowed contact which they use for recruitment and radicalization? What was shown was that in the prisons, there is no dining hall, prisoners are sustained on a diet consisting mainly of bread and soup served within their cell-in-a-cell. Beds are locked in an upright position all day and convicts are not permitted to lie in them except for sleeping. There was no evidence of "classes" or "therapy time" or inmates tattooing one another.
We have a Libertarian Law Enforcement Growth Industry.
We keep our people employed - Russian doesn't care about unemployment.
Last night I watched on National Geographic a show about Russia's prison system. They seem to have it down pat on how to deal with criminals - no yard socialization time, no let's-get-together-and-play-cards, no opportunities to form ties with other gang members, no libraries from which to persue new ways to tie up the court system. In one instance, prisoners are moved about the facility in a stress position - face down with arms twisted - to discourage problems or any familiarity of how the facility is arranged. Prisoneers answer guards with "Yes, sir!" rather than the "F**k You!" as shown in prisons here where inmates challenge guard authority. Prisons there are properly used for the purpose of punishing those who commit crimes rather than the social engineering illusion of "rehabilitation". These seem to be places where the rehab takes the form of making it such a terrrible place that men would do anything to avoid coming back to such a place. And gang problems, so prevalent in the US prison system, seemed nonexistant.
The US "Justice" system could take a lesson here. And some criminals could also.
"For the first time, three prisons across Russia unlock their doors to an international film crew. From a Siberian prison camp where temperatures plummet to 50 below to the highest security prison, where cannibals, terrorists and serial killers will live out the rest of their days, caged like animals. And, a pass inside infamous Vladimir Central — at over 200 years old, it’s held an estimated one million inmates. Inside Black Dolphin, a cannibal talks openly about his crime, divulging how he boiled, fried and ate his murder victim. In Vladimir Central, a convict opens up about killing his brother-in-law for disturbing his daughter’s peaceful night’s sleep. And inside a Siberian prison camp, we meet two friends about to go their separate ways when one gets paroled."
So Americans should be disgusted and outraged that prolonged solitary confinement, sometimes for months or even years, has become a routine form of prison management. It is inflicting unnecessary, indecent and inhumane suffering on tens of thousands of prisoners.
The issue came to the fore most recently because of a three-week hunger strike by inmates at Pelican Bay State Prison in California near the Oregon border that began on July 1 in the Orwellian Security Housing Unit, where inmates are held in wretched isolation in small windowless cells for more than 22 hours a day, some for many years.
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