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Originally Posted by polaroid
The tea baggers are clueless you mean. We do not have a deficit problem, we have a recession problem caused by wall street and the housing bubble collapse. We only had a deficit of around 200 billion, all that with two unpaid for wars started by republicans, and the bush tax cuts that cost billions and created no jobs. The Conservative way does not work every time its tried. Low information tea baggers yelling keep your the gov. out of my Medicare wearing tricorn hats and hanging tea bags from their hair is not exactly the acts of an intellectual bunch.
Your such a typical democrat/republican (they are both the same). Your analysis of the problem is that we have a recession problem? Why don't you say what you really mean like we have a "Not-enough-people-employed-so-we-can-take-the-s#!t-out-of-them" problem? The problem is that we have spent for too much money on our empire and on foolish programs that supported even more foolish ventures (bail-outs, Fannie Mac/Mae, etc.). We are taxed enough, but - just like true junkies - the addicts want to up their doseage instead of decrease. So they paint the picture as needing more money (revenue) instead of the need to live within a budget.
ok, here is my problem I have been weened from the Obama punch, but I realize that the refuticans are just as bad (same coin different side) and the Tea party folks have the right idea, but they are nutty as a snickers bar with no negotiation skills. Is there a party that is not hell bent on sending this country into the hands of a New World Order? Iguess and my suggestion to all of you is to vote for INDIVIDUALS and not parties.
IF as some here say the Tea Party is about being taxed then why are they up in arms against Obama sice he has not suggested raising taxes, yes he has suggested remove the tax CUTS for the righ only but that is it?
Also while on the subject why is they are not pushing for a Flat or Consumption Tax since either of those methods would be a more fair tax for ALL?
And on last question, if they are about taxes then why are they also focused on so many other social issues which have nothing to do with taxes?
Answers, anyone?
Casper
What have progressive did that is so terrible to you. Be honest please.
You are either clueless as all He!! or are a supporter of losing the middle class. Progressive policies enabled everything you are seeing today. They repealed Glass-Steagall, instituted the various trade agreements and got the outsourcing ball rolling. Progressives are globalists and that's all they care about. They are purposely transferring OUR wealth to the rest of the world and the elite super rich who are actually running the show. If you don't kow the very planks of the party you actually support, I feel sorry for you for being duped so bad and believing it.
The tea baggers are clueless you mean. We do not have a deficit problem, we have a recession problem caused by wall street and the housing bubble collapse. We only had a deficit of around 200 billion, all that with two unpaid for wars started by republicans, and the bush tax cuts that cost billions and created no jobs. The Conservative way does not work every time its tried. Low information tea baggers yelling keep your the gov. out of my Medicare wearing tricorn hats and hanging tea bags from their hair is not exactly the acts of an intellectual bunch.
Huh? The deficit for 2010 was 1.3 trillion. Forecasts in the coming years from the OMB are incredible (bad).
I'm constantly hearing "the TEA party" or other implications that the movement is a political party. I try to correct people when I can, but they're too ignorant to understand.
I don't think that many of these people can grasp the idea that such a powerful political movement isn't tied to a specific party, so they either make the TEA party it's own party, or they just lump us all in with Republicans.
Several times on this forum, when someone has tried to do the latter, I've stated that I'm a registered Libertarian, and asked how that fits with the view they just stated. All I've gotten is crickets - every time.
"The TEA party is just a bunch of Christian fundamentalist Republicans!" I hear that one a lot. I tell them I'm an agnostic Libertarian and with what do they respond? Nothing...
The TEA Party movement was tied to a specific political party when it first formed. In 1974, two years after the Libertarian Party was first created, a handful of Libertarians held a TEA Party protest in Minnesota. Three years after that, in 1977, the TEA Party held their first national protest in Washington DC which included Independents, Republicans, and Libertarians. They always held their protests on April 15th, until recently.
Contrary to popular belief, Ron Paul had absolutely nothing to do with the TEA Party movement.
IF as some here say the Tea Party is about being taxed then why are they up in arms against Obama sice he has not suggested raising taxes, yes he has suggested remove the tax CUTS for the righ only but that is it?
Also while on the subject why is they are not pushing for a Flat or Consumption Tax since either of those methods would be a more fair tax for ALL?
And on last question, if they are about taxes then why are they also focused on so many other social issues which have nothing to do with taxes?
Answers, anyone?
Casper
Why haven't the Progressives that actually controlled EVERYTHING for 2 years change the tax code to something more fair? That's your mantra isn't it? Fairness? Why didn't they pass a budget? Any answers????
So fiscally conservative democrats are an oxymoron? Therein lies your answer.
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