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Old 08-04-2011, 07:56 PM
 
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So we should tax people on government assistance?

Lets give you three dollars while we take one out of your back pocket?

Yeah, that makes sense.
Its income, is it not? Why would you NOT tax ALL income?
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Its income, is it not? Why would you NOT tax ALL income?
Adding a middle tax man only increases government cost.

Either lower benefits, or lower taxes. But increasing taxes while keeping benefits the same is stupid and creates waste.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:00 PM
 
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Its income, is it not? Why would you NOT tax ALL income?

You might want to really THINK about what you just said. Most conservatives/Republicans support some pretty big tax breaks.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:03 PM
 
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Adding a middle tax man only increases government cost.
It does not increase the cost on government, they are collecting returns regardless of your income levels. Some of them just owe $0.
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Either lower benefits, or lower taxes. But increasing taxes while keeping benefits the same is stupid and creates waste.
Coming from you thats shocking. Ooh wait, thats right, we're discussing people who are GIVEN money, you have no problem taking money from those who actually earn it.
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You might want to really THINK about what you just said. Most conservatives/Republicans support some pretty big tax breaks.
No need to rethink it, many conservatives support THE SAME taxes across the board, not special taxes for you, while I have to pickup the tab.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:07 PM
 
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It does not increase the cost on government, they are collecting returns regardless of your income levels. Some of them just owe $0.

Coming from you thats shocking. Ooh wait, thats right, we're discussing people who are GIVEN money, you have no problem taking money from those who actually earn it.

No need to rethink it, many conservatives support THE SAME taxes across the board, not special taxes for you, while I have to pickup the tab.

Wrong, most support big tax breaks for homeowners and higher ("split roll") taxes on rental property.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:31 PM
 
Location: FL
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That's the GOP for you. Big business first, all the little people last.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:57 PM
 
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That dreaded veto comes to about five bucks a month to the people effected. Go cry me a river. I guess one less pack of smokes a month. The same folks crying would be hailing all the jobs created if he got his plan for 50% reduction in corporate taxes which would have had business booming. Or they would be mad they'd have to actually get a job.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:01 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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I tell you, the more I follow politics, the more convinced I am that most Republicans really do despise middle and lower income people. I try to think the best of people. I really do.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:02 PM
 
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Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad (R) has a curious justification for vetoing a tax break last week for 240,000 Iowa families making $45,000 or less a year: the plan didn’t also include a tax break for corporations. Members of both parties in the Iowa House and Senate agreed to increase the state’s Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), which reduces the amount of income taxes lower-income families owe:

The change would have saved Iowa families an estimated $28.5 million in taxes over two years.

Iowa’s GOP Governor Vetoes Tax Break For The Poor Because It Didn’t Lower Corporate Taxes | ThinkProgress
If you cite ThinkProgress as a source you've failed from the outset. Hyperpartisan opinion has nothing whatsoever to do with actual news.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:08 PM
 
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That dreaded veto comes to about five bucks a month to the people effected. Go cry me a river. I guess one less pack of smokes a month. The same folks crying would be hailing all the jobs created if he got his plan for 50% reduction in corporate taxes which would have had business booming. Or they would be mad they'd have to actually get a job.

Let's say you have some crappy low-wage job. Now let's say a corporate tax cut is passed and business is booming.

Do you become better off or worse off?

My guess is that most people with crappy low-wage jobs will become worse off.
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