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Old 08-06-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Non sens the Republican deal was there for all to see. What you mean to say is Obama does everything in secret. Didn't he promise to have the most transparent administration ever?

You are now making things up. Republicans said no such thing. Link please. It is clear you are stumbling about here because you know you are wrong and have no facts to support a word you write.
Yeah, and Ryans plan shot them in the foot.

The CC&B plan was partisan with no chance to go anywhere. It was to placate a TEA party that had no chance.

The debt ceiling should have been increased with no fight, no stipulations, so said the S&P, the fight is why they downgraded.

A long term budget can be worked on and should have been worked on from Jan 10th to July.

Neither party was willing to do that. Republicans said it had to be their way, only spending cuts that weren't enough to do the job. Democrats wanted some revenue increases, and spending cuts, but still not enough to do the job.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Yeah, and Ryans plan shot them in the foot.

The CC&B plan was partisan with no chance to go anywhere. It was to placate a TEA party that had no chance.

The debt ceiling should have been increased with no fight, no stipulations, so said the S&P, the fight is why they downgraded.

A long term budget can be worked on and should have been worked on from Jan 10th to July.

Neither party was willing to do that. Republicans said it had to be their way, only spending cuts that weren't enough to do the job. Democrats wanted some revenue increases, and spending cuts, but still not enough to do the job.
More making things up. Look you really have no understanding of how this process went. I suggest you sit on the sidelines and let the folks who know how this thing went down interact. I will help you one last time. I wasn't talking about the Ryan plan, which had no role in the debt ceiling talks. I am referring to Boehner's plans.

You are incredibly wrong about why S&P downgraded, it was because there wasn't enough debt reduction.

Now please, no more contributions unless they actually make any sense.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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More making things up. Look you really have no understanding of how this process went. I suggest you sit on the sidelines and let the folks who know how this thing went down interact. I will help you one last time. I wasn't talking about the Ryan plan, which had no role in the debt ceiling talks. I am referring to Boehner's plans.

You are incredibly wrong about why S&P downgraded, it was because there wasn't enough debt reduction.

Now please, no more contributions unless they actually make any sense.
What did I make up, please, tell me.

"We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process," the ratings firm said."
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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What did I make up, please, tell me.

"We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process," the ratings firm said."
" Republicans and Democrats have only been able to agree to relatively modest savings on discretionary spending while delegating to the Select Committee decisions on more comprehensive measures. It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options. In addition, the plan envisions only minor policy changes on Medicare and little change in other entitlements, the containment of which we and most other independent observers regard as key to long-term fiscal sustainability."

Please stop already.
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