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So you are telling me the IRS is wrong? Whats your qualification again?
You have no clue what you are talking about. I'm one of those individuals who hasnt paid a DIME in federal taxes in TEN YEARS..
No, I'm telling you that you are wrong. The IRS collects income tax from all legally employed persons. A variety of credits and entitlements, like the Earned Income Tax Credit, are returned to these tax-payers, which after deductions often leads to equal or positive returns for roughly 50% of tax-payers.
That 50% of tax payers generally represents those making 33k and less.
Kucinich;you have tyo be kidding. He never did anythig but spend moeny he is so far to the left. He and people like him are one reason for the deficit. growth as to have investemnt in somethig that returns welth. His whole policy is spending on programs that purely consume wealth.
Kucinich;you have tyo be kidding. He never did anythig but spend moeny he is so far to the left. He and people like him are one reason for the deficit. growth as to have investemnt in somethig that returns welth. His whole policy is spending on programs that purely consume wealth.
OMG! For the 7th time WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL INCOME TAXES.
You'd be awfully naive to believe that income tax is the only means of earning your living in the United States. The fact that 50% of the populace doesn't pay an income tax is irrelevant when you consider they pay other taxes which are put into the system, which includes the payroll tax. It's deliberate misinformation to leave-out that everyone pays taxes, and to overly focus on a specific tax which the wealthy pay so little. They don't make their millions on their paychecks, they make it through capital gains and dividends, which the bottom 80, actually closer to bottom 90% can't do because they don't have the wealth to do.
No, I'm telling you that you are wrong. The IRS collects income tax from all legally employed persons. A variety of credits and entitlements, like the Earned Income Tax Credit, are returned to these tax-payers, which after deductions often leads to equal or positive returns for roughly 50% of tax-payers.
That 50% of tax payers generally represents those making 33k and less.
If they receive a variety of credits and entitlements which equal a positive return to roughly 50% of tax payers, they arent paying.
Tell me Konraden, do you walk into a car dealership and tell the dealership you'll pay $25,000 for a new car, but only if they give you a $30,000 credit, negotating with them that you are indeed paying?
You are so busy trying to prove something exists that doesnt, that you arent even concerned at all with the fact that you are validating the OP's point, and you dont even realize it..
OMG! For the 7th time WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL INCOME TAXES.
And it's a flawed discussion from the get go since the Federal Income Tax is not the only federal tax AND it only makes up just over half of all federal revenues.
If they receive a variety of credits and entitlements which equal a positive return to roughly 50% of tax payers, they arent paying.
They are paying income taxes. The credits and entitlements are merely returned in the same IRS programs. Except if we separated the two, you wouldn't have such a Fox News-esque argument as "half the country doesn't pay taxes."
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Tell me Konraden, do you walk into a car dealership and tell the dealership you'll pay $25,000 for a new car, but only if they give you a $30,000 credit, negotating with them that you are indeed paying?
Actually, that's an apt analogy. You see, the dealership--when you buy the car--gives you your credits and rebates on the spot on the same bill. The IRS does the same thing.
On the other hand, a lot of smaller products you buy, such as a clock-radio, come with separate mail-in rebates. You pay up front for the radio, but the rebate comes in the mail which reduces the price. That's the difference between our current system which muddies the water between the two, and a system which would have a department which handled the credits. Perhaps a human-services division.
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