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Merck openly admits that they don't know if gardacil will actually prevent cancer at all, ...After all...the typical incubation period for cervical cancer is 10-15 years....it's women over 30 who are most at risk and it's extremely rare in under 20 year olds...why are we vaccinating young children?...Even if you get vaccinated , pap smears are still recommended, and they identify 95-100% of cervical cancers....In the studies offered to the FDA in Mercks application for approval...data indicated that gardacil may actually INCREASE your daughters risk of developing cervical cancer if she already has one of the relevant strains of HPV at the time of vaccination...Gardacil offers NO protection for a large number of strains of hpv that have been linked to cancer.
Gardasil has been shown to prevent dysplasia, which is a precursor to cervical cancer.
Pap smears work by allowing the diagnosis and treatment of dysplasia, thus preventing the progression to cervical cancer. Although the Pap was initially used to diagnose actual cancer, that is no longer its function.
Since Gardasil prevents dysplasia, and cancers do not arise without going through a dysplastic phase, it is reasonable to predict that Gardasil will prevent cancers related to HPV 16 and HPV 18, the two strains in the vaccine. In addition, there is some cross protection against some strains that are not in the vaccine but closely enough related that the vaccine causes antibodies to be produced against them. HPV 16 & HPV 18 are associated with 70% of genital cancers, and the cross protection increases that percentage.
The other cancer associated strains account for less than 30% of cancers. We will see vaccines against more strains in the future, I am sure, but we need to protect against the 70% now.
You cannot have it both ways. If you believe in Pap smears, you have to believe that Gardasil (and Cervarix) will reduce the risk of cervical cancer.
In the follow up studies since Gardasil was licensed there has been no evidence that the vaccine increases the risk of cancer in women with pre-existing HPV infections. The vaccine will not (and would not be expected to) treat pre-existing dysplasia.
Keep in mind that the vaccine also protects against cancers that will not be picked up by Pap smears, including external genital, anal, and throat cancers in women and genital, throat and anal cancers in males, which have similar natural histories --- dysplastic precursors --- to cervical cancer.
Merck will not claim the vaccine prevents cancer until the studies are complete. Yes, that will take many years, but the evidence for the prevention of dysplasia is overwhelming, and if you prevent the dysplasia, you will prevent the cancer.
"Merck will not claim the vaccine prevents cancer until the studies are complete".....geez, that's comforting...lets line up our daughters and sons to be guinea pigs
"Merck will not claim the vaccine prevents cancer until the studies are complete".....geez, that's comforting...lets line up our daughters and sons to be guinea pigs
It just means the company will not make the claim. It does not mean the vaccine will not prevent cervical cancer --- and the other cancers with which the HPV types in the vaccine are associated.
and the anti-vax kook chimes in. Why did you abandon the other thread where you were getting thoroughly spanked?
Awww, ad hominem again! You are incredibly cute. Your desperation and need to find something to say to me actually does say a lot and all of it about yourself.
Abandoned? Try to think in broader terms. Nothing has been "abandoned" or forgotten. I'll add more as I am so inspired. All that I have put there has the stated purpose of mine. It is all there for millions of readers to find on the net, the pro and con from each of us. The radio dude named Paul Harvey would say, "and now you know the rest of the story."
yet you don't even address that you've been thoroughly spanked in every thread about vaccinations yet you continue to puke up your claims as if they were true (they aren't)
so why did you run away from the other thread where you were heavily trounced on your anti-vax propaganda?
Purehuman, don't doubt yourself. That shot is potentially, very harmful and dangerous. It's been shown for the very limited coverage, if any that it has. It is given to girls at way, too young of an age even if it did really cover a wide range of the HPV strains, but as you suggested, it does not do so.
Nature gave us a fantastic immune system and we are wise to not sacrifice ourselves to Big Pharma. the majority of folks are awake to this one. Rick Perry got in big trouble in Texas for trying to force this crap on his constitutents and rightly so. They showed him!~
Every word of this post is simply an illustration of the arrogant of ignorance. You don't know what you're talking about so you should stop talking.
The only danger with the vaccine is that it won't work.
Luckily for the Australians they don't agree with you:
Vaccines are the use of our natural immune system. The prod it to work better. Rick Perry is a coward who couldn't admit that he did the right thing because the lunatic brigade stalked him. All they showed him was the pathetic ignorance of certain segments of the American population.
"PATRICIA end-of-study results show excellent vaccine efficacy against CIN3+ and AIS irrespective of HPV DNA in the lesion. Population-based vaccination that incorporates the HPV-16/18 vaccine and high coverage of early adolescents might have the potential to substantially reduce the incidence of cervical cancer."
Vaccination against HPV 16 and 18 was 100% effective in preventing the most severe forms of dysplasia (CIN 3, which is the last step before a true cancer) in women who were negative for the virus when they received the vaccine.
There was lower efficacy in the group of vaccine recipients with prior HPV infection, but still significantly protective.
This article emphasizes the need to vaccinate before the onset of sexual activity.
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You are incredibly cute. Your desperation and need to find something to say to me actually does say a lot and all of it about yourself. 
