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Old 08-14-2011, 11:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by forest beekeeper View Post
Okay lets draw pictures for the slow minded.

Before vaxes were invented. Europe suffered from a series of illnesses spread from animals. They had no vaxes, so many people died. However among the survivors were immunities.

If you seriously doubt any of this, then you truly need to read some history books.

Everything I said was factual.
That is not what you said.

You said:

Quote:
That is it, vaxes 'save' because they kill.
Vaccines do not kill no matter what the anti-vax nuts believe.

Please to read a history book of your own.

 
Old 08-14-2011, 11:58 AM
 
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I know, it's as ridiculous as saying I had a car accident once, all I got was whiplash. What's the big deal?
By their reasoning you should never drive again. You should campaign vigorously against driving on the grounds that cars cause whiplash. The way to eliminate whiplash is to stop driving obviously.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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That is not what you said.

You said:
Vaccines do not kill no matter what the anti-vax nuts believe.

Please to read a history book of your own.
It is not polite to pull one phrase away form it's context.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Originally Posted by forest beekeeper View Post
Okay lets draw pictures for the slow minded.

Before vaxes were invented. Europe suffered from a series of illnesses spread from animals. They had no vaxes, so many people died. However among the survivors were immunities.

If you seriously doubt any of this, then you truly need to read some history books.

Everything I said was factual.
So you are saying we are better off without westernized medicine? Survival of the fittest is good enough? Well then, I hope you will be happy having most of your children die? Have 10 in the hopes at least 4 will survive. Good grief!
 
Old 08-14-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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It is not polite to pull one phrase away form it's context.
I was quoting you. Do you or do you not think vaccines kill? Clarify.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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Where did you post any statistics? People are not better off if they get measles then if they don't. They're better off if they get the shot against measles. The shot carries a far lower risk of side effects than the actual disease.
You're really INTO short term gain.

You should be a stock broker.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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You're really INTO short term gain.

You should be a stock broker.
So you got nothing?
 
Old 08-14-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: California
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Some years ago a child in my area lost both his arms to an infection from measles. It was sad.

15 years ago I had them when my kids did (my mother was viligant about keeping me away from measles as a kid) and we sailed through with just a few small scars. But I can't imagine telling that poor boys family that measles are no big deal and he is better off for having them, can you?
 
Old 08-14-2011, 12:24 PM
 
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So you got nothing?
I got everything.

Where's Eleanora?

I'm getting hot!

Let's ménage à trois!

It could be, like, a multiple vaccination, or something.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 12:29 PM
 
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You're really INTO short term gain.

You should be a stock broker.
A bout of measles can have long term serious consequences that include deafness, encephalitis and impaired mobility. You're really into ignoring facts on this issue.

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I got everything.

Where's Eleanora?

I'm getting hot!

Let's ménage à trois!

It could be, like, a multiple vaccination, or something.
Oh look an anti-vaxxer made a funny. He compared getting multiple vaccines to having sex with multiple people. He so funny.

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