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Old 08-10-2011, 09:31 AM
 
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obama has been a disaster. His catchy slogans like “hope and change” really meant “misery and continued massive spending”. Even the stock market reacted to another obama canned speech, it dropped dramatically. Nobody is buying what obama is selling.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:34 AM
 
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And yet only 63% of US citizens voted in the last presidential election and only 24% voted in the 2010 midterm elections.

As citizens, we are getting exactly what we deserve.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:34 AM
 
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Interesting. From the article:

*68 percent support increasing taxes on those earning more than $250,000 a year
*60 percent support eliminating subsidies for oil and gas companies
*50 percent back cutting defense spending
* 83 percent are against cutting Medicare and Social Security"

So, the direction Americans want America to head in is......
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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Interesting. From the article:

*68 percent support increasing taxes on those earning more than $250,000 a year
*60 percent support eliminating subsidies for oil and gas companies
*50 percent back cutting defense spending
* 83 percent are against cutting Medicare and Social Security"

So, the direction Americans want America to head in is......
Hey, why work harder to make your own way when you can get someone who already busted their a** to be successful to give you what they earned?
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:46 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Hey, why work harder to make your own way when you can get someone who already busted their a** to be successful to give you what they earned?
Like the Wall st folks shiming off of the pensions of the American people making billions? You are right they are "busting their a##" off

You and poeple like yourself have to quit lumping all of the milionaires/billlionaires in one category. There are some that can (and might) want to help the American people with jobs but the ones who are running the show really don't care, because they make their money off of other peoples money anyway.

When the stock market went down, don't you think that there were some folks profitting off of other's misery? It is called selling short. So by using that logic, don't you think that there are powerful people behind the scenes causing this?
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Interesting. From the article:

*68 percent support increasing taxes on those earning more than $250,000 a year
*60 percent support eliminating subsidies for oil and gas companies
*50 percent back cutting defense spending
* 83 percent are against cutting Medicare and Social Security"

So, the direction Americans want America to head in is......
and from previous polls, 75% of Americans favor a balanced budget amendment, 67% favored Cut, Cap, and Balance. And for about 2 years, > 50% of Americans have been against the Healthcare Reform Act.

So what is the direction again?
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:51 AM
 
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Interesting. From the article:

*68 percent support increasing taxes on those earning more than $250,000 a year
*60 percent support eliminating subsidies for oil and gas companies
*50 percent back cutting defense spending
* 83 percent are against cutting Medicare and Social Security"

So, the direction Americans want America to head in is......
The "68%" that are for increasing taxes on the wealthy will probably never even earn HALF of that in their lifetime per year so they don't care how high the taxes are.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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Like the Wall st folks shiming off of the pensions of the American people making billions? You are right they are "busting their a##" off

You and poeple like yourself have to quit lumping all of the milionaires/billlionaires in one category. There are some that can (and might) want to help the American people with jobs but the ones who are running the show really don't care, because they make their money off of other peoples money anyway.

When the stock market went down, don't you think that there were some folks profitting off of other's misery? It is called selling short. So by using that logic, don't you think that there are powerful people behind the scenes causing this?
What? You mean the people with PhD's who spend 15 years of their lives working 75 hour weeks for next to nothing before they join a wall street trading firm to make serious money?

Yeah, I do think they have busted their a**es to earn what they have. Do you know anything about wall street beyond what is on the news?


Guess what? I am firmly middle class and made a 30% gain the first three months after the stock market went down. Only an idiot wouldn't short the market to hedge against losses. Don't get upset because wall street had a contingency plan and you did not.
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:05 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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The "68%" that are for increasing taxes on the wealthy will probably never even earn HALF of that in their lifetime per year so they don't care how high the taxes are.

That is a very fair, honest analogy, of how most people think. Will never come from them, so why should they care where and how high taxes of the wealthy become. Not coming from their pockets, they don't care.

Just maybe if it wre coming from them, they would think think a bit different.
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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Who are the other 30%? Complete morons.
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