UK riots and what happens when government doesn't allow you to protect yourselves (lobbyists, lobby)

[jonaos]

Hows that Multi-Culturalism working out for you UK ?

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

Originally Posted by geeoro

You are soooooo right.
In the UK you can get a shotgun by simply applying for one. Your home is inspected to make sure you have somewhere secure for the rifle and you have to have a legitimate reason for wanting one... member of a shooting club etc.... but guess what.... hardly anyone applies for a shotgun licence... not needed and not wanted..... simple.

I'm confused, are you talking about shotguns or rifles?

What qualifies as "secure"?

Are there restrictions as to the type of shotgun (or rifle) that one can own?

In the event of a home invasion, am I protected by law if I have to use said firearm to protect myself, and the poor perpetrator happens to fall over dead?

WHY should someone have to have "a legitimate reason" for owning an inanimate object? Who decides what that reason is?

Are firearms typically stored in the home, or must they be kept in a locked safe at a "shooting club"?

[eric3781]

See below. An oldie, but goodie. If your government disarms you, you are not a citizen, you are a subject. With all the Brits in this thread coming out to defend their anti-gun government/culture, it appears they are perfectly happy being subjects, as they have been for most of their history.

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

[AllenDullesMJ12]

Originally Posted by BruSan

No one is trying to talk you out of your damn guns now leave the rest of us, who neither want nor need them, the hell alone would you?

It's better for people who are too squeamish about owning guns to not have them in the first place.

[All American NYC]

While he was barricaded inside a local pub, he saw racial beatings carried out by groups of what he described as Afro-Caribbean black youths targeting whites. Meanwhile, the authorities in London are preparing to implement a martial law crackdown on the riots, putting in place greater restrictions on liberties as a pre-planned “response.”

Lets hope it gets better before it gets worse.

[eric3781]

Originally Posted by AllenDullesMJ12

It's better for people who are too squeamish about owning guns to not have them in the first place.

Indeed. I guess there is a kind of ignorant bliss that befalls the peasantry once their only effective means of defending themselves against criminals and tyrannical governments are taken from them. Some kind of perverted variant of Stockholm syndrome.

I guess all the real men in England got killed in WWII, leaving only weak cowards to breed and repopulate the once greatest empire on the planet.

Perhaps I shouldn't presume to know so much about this mindset as I am not a defenseless, bootlicking, unarmed, peon subject of my government.

[JazzyTallGuy]

Originally Posted by KUchief25

No if they knew the store owners had a shotgun behind the counter they wouldn't have started this fiasco in the first place. You folks sit around and wait for the cops to show up though. They will after it's all said and done and mark chalk around your body.

You are making the assumption that people owning the stores will be the only people with access to guns. The fact that the looters for the most part don't have guns and neither do the store owners and other people is probably the primary thing that has kept the death toll down during these riots.

The only thing that killing anybody in these situations does is inflame emotions, which makes things more likley to get more out of control.

[Ferd]

All I know is that if this happened where I live, the people who own the businesses would be able to protect themselves and the police would not be waiting on the stinking parlament to tell them they can take care of the situation.


THE STINKING PARALMENT HAD TO GET INVOLVED!!!!! How insane is that??????


If a riot broke out in Dallas... and it could happen and has happened, the police would lock it down quick. they wouldnt be wating on some silly ruling from some deliberating body to "allow" them to use a water cannon.

The would just go in, knock heads, and stop the thing.

[mhouse2001]

Originally Posted by AllenDullesMJ12

The infantile, soft, and feminine liberal way of thinking unto the sheeple is what got us into this mess. Now you want more of it?

Infantile? It's infantile to say no to violence?
Feminine? It's feminine to oppose violence? Is masculine somehow better?
Liberal? Thanks for clarifying that peace is not a conservative virtue.

If these are true, let's also acknowledge that such people are happier, healthier, and wiser. See you in a thousand years.

[Kirdik]

Multiculturalism is paying off.