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Old 08-14-2011, 09:09 AM
 
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Some friends of mine are utility workers and were fixing a gas main brake, Detroit area. While they were on site, a group of angry section 8ers were approaching them as a group, best described as an eery "night of the living dead" scene. When they got close to my friends, they started yapping and making threats on their lives if the work wasn't done immediately. I'm convinced there'll be real problems once the switch gets turned off for good.

I keep one of these under the driver's seat in a convenient tennis racquet bag, for close encounters.
Can you describe the photo? Thanks.

 
Old 08-14-2011, 09:09 AM
 
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If college means a job and not needing food stamps in the long run, why is that a bad thing? I got food stamps and saved up SSI so that I could get a braille display so that I could 1) communicate with people effectively as a deaf-blind person 2) get a job 3) get off benefits and 4) eventually to go school. I reached all these goals and am off any sort of government assistance. But I wouldn't have been able to do it if I wasn't on food stamps for awhile. Those months of food stamps carried me far and prevented me from a lifetime of mooching off of SSI benefits and food stamps.

Sometimes you have to work your way up in steps, and food stamps is just one of those steps of the ladder. Wouldn't you prefer someone be on food stamps for a few months or even a few years so they can pursue a goal that will enable them to be off food stamps for the rest of their life?
"Few months" is the key phrase here. Sure - let some woman who finds herself knocked up by a bum who isn't going to stick around and help her support their child get food stamps for a few months. That's not really the problem.

She should be encouraged to keep her job so she'll still have it after the baby is born, but why would welfare handouts for having a baby go on longer than maternity leave for a working woman? And we're not talking about blind or other physically challenged types here, these women in the video are not physicially challenged.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 09:11 AM
 
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There have been headlines about the sad plight of farmers in Georgia who cannot find workers to harvest the crops.

No - I would not go hungry, nor would my kids go hungry. I'd be out there picking vegetables and fruit, maybe even brushing the dirt off one and eating it -- I did that when picking fruit while growing up, the farmers don't care.

It's wrong that we've promoted such extreme government dependence and these ladies are not disabled, they are so able-bodied that they have no trouble pumping out child after child. They're lazy.
Isn't that the truth. That one lady with the gold hoop earring looks like she could easily carry multiple baskets of tomatoes to the container truck. Well like Jimmy the Greek said.....................
 
Old 08-14-2011, 09:12 AM
 
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There have been headlines about the sad plight of farmers in Georgia who cannot find workers to harvest the crops.

No - I would not go hungry, nor would my kids go hungry. I'd be out there picking vegetables and fruit, maybe even brushing the dirt off one and eating it -- I did that when picking fruit while growing up, the farmers don't care.

It's wrong that we've promoted such extreme government dependence and these ladies are not disabled, they are so able-bodied that they have no trouble pumping out child after child. They're lazy.
Not everyone lives where there are fruits and vegetables just lying around.

My point isn't that these ladies are disabled. My point is that cutting off food stamps cuts off a lot of disabled people from their only source of food as well.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 09:14 AM
 
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"Few months" is the key phrase here. Sure - let some woman who finds herself knocked up by a bum who isn't going to stick around and help her support their child get food stamps for a few months. That's not really the problem.

She should be encouraged to keep her job so she'll still have it after the baby is born, but why would welfare handouts for having a baby go on longer than maternity leave for a working woman? And we're not talking about blind or other physically challenged types here, these women in the video are not physicially challenged.
But you're talking about food stamps being cut off like it's no big deal. It's a HUGE deal to a lot of people whose only means of survival is government assistance programs like food stamps.

It is NOT acceptable that a county would just cut off people's food stamps on a whim like that. And even though those women could work, right now they aren't and it would take awhile for them to get that together, so in the short term, their children will go hungry. Should their children just not eat while it takes them a few weeks to organize working for some farmer? It's not practical. They would need to be given some time to adjust to the change. The FS program should have warned them that they are running low on funds and they should look to other means of income instead of just cutting them off out of the blue one night like it's no big deal. They should have been sent a letter in the mail a month or two ago.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 09:14 AM
 
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Not everyone lives where there are fruits and vegetables just lying around.

My point isn't that these ladies are disabled. My point is that cutting off food stamps cuts off a lot of disabled people from their only source of food as well.
There are fruits and vegetables in Georgia that need picking. There are a number of articles out there about the problem the farmers are having in finding workers. A little work never hurt anyone.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 09:14 AM
 
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I think the problem here is the fact that it's not a single person on food stamps or a mother and a child. It's a mother, and SIX children. This is crazy. They really need to make it a requirement that if you don't have a child yet, only one child born from you is eligible for government benefits. 2nd one is on their own. These people have no business having more than one kid. No wonder they are poor and stay that way! And what happens? Those kids end up being criminals if they are male, and welfare queens if they are female. And this is Georgia. There's crops that need picking!

The time of propping up and expanding the welfare class needs to end NOW. But Planned Parenthood or the liberals won't allow that to happen. Planned Parenthood would lose money in providing less abortions
 
Old 08-14-2011, 09:14 AM
 
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Not everyone lives where there are fruits and vegetables just lying around.

My point isn't that these ladies are disabled. My point is that cutting off food stamps cuts off a lot of disabled people from their only source of food as well.
Most do live where they can find work.

I have a friend who has been trying to find someone to clean her home three or, four days a week all summer.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 09:15 AM
 
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I am right behind you if they are repeat offenders and already have one child receiving gvt help. Snip em.
And a vasectomy is reversible.

Cut your paycheck for life, or
Cut your losses now
Get a Vasectomy

Most of these type of men actually seek woman who are
on welfare w/ children. It provides them with a
free place to shack up, they don't have to pay
any expenses for the children e.g. food, shelter,
medical, and they can still deal drugs without
anyone really questioning their finances. It's
become a real scam.
 
Old 08-14-2011, 09:16 AM
 
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But you're talking about food stamps being cut off like it's no big deal. It's a HUGE deal to a lot of people whose only means of survival is government assistance programs like food stamps.
I am sure these people will be back on the dole ASAP.
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