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Old 08-20-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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How about the people who witnessed WTC 7 implode at freefall speed on it's own footprint... After firefighters told everybody they were about to blow it up...
false


Why is it when the twoofers talk about bld7, people never:

1. Admit that the building got BADLY damaged when the towers fell:

a) the entire front fascia was sheared off

b) a 12-16 story gash(hole) in the corner(main supports)(Proves the FACT that there was MASSIVE structural damage)

2. Admit that there was an entire ConED substation(electric plant) below the building. (this article PROVES the substation and the new one rebuilt in May04,, It also gives a good description of the transformers)

Lower Manhattan Development Corporation - GOVERNOR PATAKI JOINS CON EDISON TO MARK OPENING OF ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION AT 7 WORLD TRADE CENTER

3. Admit that the building had 20 or more back up generators (4 on the 23rd floor, 3 on the 7th floor, 14 on the 5th floor, 1 on the 8th floor w/fuel tank, 4 on the 46th floor, 1 on the 9th floor)(Proves the FACT of many things that could have BLOWN up within the building supporting the statements of "heard explosions")

4. Admit that the building had 22 main Transformers(which can explode if heated(full of oil))(some of them 2 stories tall) and 2 dry transformers (10 1st floor, 12 5th floor, 2 7th floor)(proves the FACT of more things that could have blown up)

5. Admit that the Fuel source for those generators was stored in the building and equaled 18 tankers (18,000 gallons on the 2nd floor, and 48,000 in the lower level, 300 gallons on the 23rd floor, 300 gallons on the 5th floor, 100 gallons on the 9th floor, 300 gallons on the 7th floor)(proves the FACT of a major fuel source, along with all the office furnature)

6. Admit the there was LP gas lines running throughout the building

7. Admit that the Penthouse fell FIRST

8. Admit that the building did NOT fall symmetrically it collapsed from the center(the north wall even covered the debris

9. Admit that it did NOT fall with in its footprint, it covered "barkley street" and caused SIGNIFICANT DAMAGED(fell onto) another building (30 west broadway) and the Verizon building( just some logic here cant be in its "own footprint if it went OUTSIDE of its footprint)(ABSOLUTELY proves that it was not a PERFECT symmetrical fall)

10. Admit that the FIREMEN, said the fire could not be CONTROLLED

A) I will give just two,,,,"We walked over by number Seven World Trade Center as it was burning and saw this 40-plus story building with fire on nearly all floors." –FDNY Lieutenant Robert LaRocca

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...HIC/9110081.PD (broken link)

b). The major concern at that time was number Seven, building number Seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing. –FDNY Chief Frank Fellini

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110217.PDF (broken link)

11. Admit that there was a problem with the water supply(NO WATER)

12 the only mention "3 buildings" but not the other 10 buildings were destroyed that day in NYC

13. Admit that to wire a building.:

.......a) would take months.

.......b) beams would HAVE to be cut ,making the building NOT safe to go into for months prior to the collapse(proves that there is not way the building could have been imploded since monday sept 10 was a WORK DAY)

.......c) explosives don't like fire and heat

........d) that the term "pull" is NOT used in Explosive demos
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:55 AM
 
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So did both wars.......... I feel less safe because I don't trust the U.S. government now.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:14 AM
 
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false


Why is it when the twoofers talk about bld7, people never:

1. Admit that the building got BADLY damaged when the towers fell:

a) the entire front fascia was sheared off

b) a 12-16 story gash(hole) in the corner(main supports)(Proves the FACT that there was MASSIVE structural damage)

2. Admit that there was an entire ConED substation(electric plant) below the building. (this article PROVES the substation and the new one rebuilt in May04,, It also gives a good description of the transformers)

Lower Manhattan Development Corporation - GOVERNOR PATAKI JOINS CON EDISON TO MARK OPENING OF ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION AT 7 WORLD TRADE CENTER

3. Admit that the building had 20 or more back up generators (4 on the 23rd floor, 3 on the 7th floor, 14 on the 5th floor, 1 on the 8th floor w/fuel tank, 4 on the 46th floor, 1 on the 9th floor)(Proves the FACT of many things that could have BLOWN up within the building supporting the statements of "heard explosions")

4. Admit that the building had 22 main Transformers(which can explode if heated(full of oil))(some of them 2 stories tall) and 2 dry transformers (10 1st floor, 12 5th floor, 2 7th floor)(proves the FACT of more things that could have blown up)

5. Admit that the Fuel source for those generators was stored in the building and equaled 18 tankers (18,000 gallons on the 2nd floor, and 48,000 in the lower level, 300 gallons on the 23rd floor, 300 gallons on the 5th floor, 100 gallons on the 9th floor, 300 gallons on the 7th floor)(proves the FACT of a major fuel source, along with all the office furnature)

6. Admit the there was LP gas lines running throughout the building

7. Admit that the Penthouse fell FIRST

8. Admit that the building did NOT fall symmetrically it collapsed from the center(the north wall even covered the debris

9. Admit that it did NOT fall with in its footprint, it covered "barkley street" and caused SIGNIFICANT DAMAGED(fell onto) another building (30 west broadway) and the Verizon building( just some logic here cant be in its "own footprint if it went OUTSIDE of its footprint)(ABSOLUTELY proves that it was not a PERFECT symmetrical fall)

10. Admit that the FIREMEN, said the fire could not be CONTROLLED

A) I will give just two,,,,"We walked over by number Seven World Trade Center as it was burning and saw this 40-plus story building with fire on nearly all floors." –FDNY Lieutenant Robert LaRocca

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...HIC/9110081.PD (broken link)

b). The major concern at that time was number Seven, building number Seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing. –FDNY Chief Frank Fellini

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110217.PDF (broken link)

11. Admit that there was a problem with the water supply(NO WATER)

12 the only mention "3 buildings" but not the other 10 buildings were destroyed that day in NYC

13. Admit that to wire a building.:

.......a) would take months.

.......b) beams would HAVE to be cut ,making the building NOT safe to go into for months prior to the collapse(proves that there is not way the building could have been imploded since monday sept 10 was a WORK DAY)

.......c) explosives don't like fire and heat

........d) that the term "pull" is NOT used in Explosive demos
It appears you are in stage 2 of the Schopenhauer theory...

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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It appears you are in stage 2 of the Schopenhauer theory...
Lol, note, this poster trots out this nonsequitor when she can't respond to facts.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:32 AM
 
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Lol, note, this poster trots out this nonsequitor when he can't respond to facts.

The pentagon was not hit by a airliner. See for yourself - YouTube
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Well of course the pentagon was hit by an airliner, but again you refuse to respond to a detailed outline of the event surrounding building 7. I think that is very telling.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:45 AM
 
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Well of course the pentagon was hit by an airliner, but again you refuse to respond to a detailed outline of the event surrounding building 7. I think that is very telling.
Already responded to the paid troll shill deaf ears on WTC 7... but here you go...


4409 -- (Unseen Footage) Tower 7 blasted into rubble from NEW angle! - YouTube


Explosions before planes hit WTC 911 9/11 - YouTube
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Already responded to the paid troll shill deaf ears on WTC 7... but here you go...
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4409 -- (Unseen Footage) Tower 7 blasted into rubble from NEW angle! - YouTube


Explosions before planes hit WTC 911 9/11 - YouTube
Of course you didn't respond to the poster, you simply posted a video. It is clear why you dont want to respond to him.

It's interesting, when you asked me for certain proof, I produced it. Of course you called it fake. So one a poster asks you to respond to very specific questions and you refuse. Very telling indeed.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:48 AM
 
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Well of course the pentagon was hit by an airliner, but again you refuse to respond to a detailed outline of the event surrounding building 7. I think that is very telling.



and we have a winner...


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Old 08-20-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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Well of course the pentagon was hit by an airliner, but again you refuse to respond to a detailed outline of the event surrounding building 7. I think that is very telling.
I don't always respond to paid shill troll posters...
Actual witness testimony from people who were there speaks for itself...
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