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Old 08-22-2011, 01:27 PM
 
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When you are talking about a "False Flag" military operation... Yes... Actually most of them are dead... Just like "SEAL Team 6" are all dead now...


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer

So...................... in your mind, the government engages in complex, well orchestrated activities, completes the objective, and kills everyone involved so no one will talk? Stop for a moment and ponder that contention. It will take only a few minutes to realize the irrationality of that position.

When has the federal government been capable of doing anything right? I think that you are giving the feds way too much credit.
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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So...................... in your mind, the government engages in complex, well orchestrated activities, completes the objective, and kills everyone involved so no one will talk?

The ones who they know may talk... Yes.....


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The ones who they know may talk... Yes.....


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
This is astonishing, I leave for a few hours and crazy town gets crazier. I am sure you have rock solid evidence for such a belief.
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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This is astonishing, I leave for a few hours and crazy town gets crazier. I am sure you have rock solid evidence for such a belief.

SEALs killed in Afghan crash on rescue mission - USATODAY.com

The rescue team had completed the mission, subduing the attackers who had the Rangers pinned down, and was departing in a Chinook helicopter when the aircraft was apparently hit, one of the officials said.

Thirty Americans and eight Afghans were killed in the crash, making it the deadliest single loss for U.S. forces in the decade-long war in Afghanistan.

Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members Of SEAL Team 6 | FoxNews.com

Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite unit as the Navy SEALs who killed former Al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden, U.S. officials said Saturday. It was the deadliest single loss for American forces in the decade-old war against the Taliban.

Read more: Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members Of SEAL Team 6 | FoxNews.com


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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SEALs killed in Afghan crash on rescue mission - USATODAY.com

The rescue team had completed the mission, subduing the attackers who had the Rangers pinned down, and was departing in a Chinook helicopter when the aircraft was apparently hit, one of the officials said.

Thirty Americans and eight Afghans were killed in the crash, making it the deadliest single loss for U.S. forces in the decade-long war in Afghanistan.

Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members Of SEAL Team 6 | FoxNews.com

Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite unit as the Navy SEALs who killed former Al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden, U.S. officials said Saturday. It was the deadliest single loss for American forces in the decade-old war against the Taliban.

Read more: Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members Of SEAL Team 6 | FoxNews.com


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
The crazy train has left the station. This is really what psychology today was talking about. Taking a sad situation a reading something Into it that simply isn't supported by anything resembling facts. It really is an interesting break from reality conspiracy theorists make.

Now normal people would say, wow that's sad. These folks are routinely dispatched to dangerous areas, this is part of the territory.
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:51 PM
 
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SEALs killed in Afghan crash on rescue mission - USATODAY.com

The rescue team had completed the mission, subduing the attackers who had the Rangers pinned down, and was departing in a Chinook helicopter when the aircraft was apparently hit, one of the officials said.

Thirty Americans and eight Afghans were killed in the crash, making it the deadliest single loss for U.S. forces in the decade-long war in Afghanistan.

Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members Of SEAL Team 6 | FoxNews.com

Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite unit as the Navy SEALs who killed former Al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden, U.S. officials said Saturday. It was the deadliest single loss for American forces in the decade-old war against the Taliban.

Read more: Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members Of SEAL Team 6 | FoxNews.com


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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The crazy train has left the station. This is really what psychology today was talking about. Taking a sad situation a reading something Into it that simply isn't supported by anything resembling facts. It really is an interesting break from reality conspiracy theorists make.

Now normal people would say, wow that's sad. These folks are routinely dispatched to dangerous areas, this is part of the territory.

So... Now no one from SEAL Team 6 is left to tell thier story... as they said they were going to when they rolled back home...


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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So... Now no one from SEAL Team 6 is left to tell thier story... as they said they were going to when they rolled back home...


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
More leaping. From your link.

"Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite unit as the Navy SEALs who killed former Al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden, U.S. officials said Saturday. It was the deadliest single loss for American forces in the decade-old war against the Taliban."

Please highlight for us where it says these individuals were the same ones who took part in the Bin Laden killing. Also please point out to us where it says there are none left from that specific team.

Even if any of what you you write is true ( which it isn't), what evidence is there that it is anything other than a tragedy?

You make some crazy connections that simply don't exist.

"Information is the conspiracy theorists' weapon of choice because if there's one thing they all agree on, it's that all the rest of us have been brainwashed. The "facts" will plainly reveal the existence of the conspiracy, they believe. And while all of us tend to bend information to fit our pre-existing cognitive schema, conspiracy theorists are more extreme. They are "immune to evidence," discounting contradictory information or seeing it as "proof of how clever the enemy is at covering things up," Goertzel says."


Field Guide to the Conspiracy Theorist: Dark Minds | Psychology Today
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:44 PM
 
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So...................... in your mind, the government engages in complex, well orchestrated activities, completes the objective, and kills everyone involved so no one will talk? Stop for a moment and ponder that contention. It will take only a few minutes to realize the irrationality of that position.

When has the federal government been capable of doing anything right? I think that you are giving the feds way too much credit.
Cash for Clunkers, The Post Office, Amtrak, Food stamps, etc,. etc., etc.

Has the gov't ever run a program without cost overruns?
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:44 PM
 
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More leaping. From your link.

"Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite unit as the Navy SEALs who killed former Al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden, U.S. officials said Saturday. It was the deadliest single loss for American forces in the decade-old war against the Taliban."

Please highlight for us where it says these individuals were the same ones who took part in the Bin Laden killing. Also please point out to us where it says there are none left from that specific team.

Even if any of what you you write is true ( which it isn't), what evidence is there that it is anything other than a tragedy?

You make some crazy connections that simply don't exist.

"Information is the conspiracy theorists' weapon of choice because if there's one thing they all agree on, it's that all the rest of us have been brainwashed. The "facts" will plainly reveal the existence of the conspiracy, they believe. And while all of us tend to bend information to fit our pre-existing cognitive schema, conspiracy theorists are more extreme. They are "immune to evidence," discounting contradictory information or seeing it as "proof of how clever the enemy is at covering things up," Goertzel says."

Field Guide to the Conspiracy Theorist: Dark Minds | Psychology Today

One current and one former U.S. official said that the dead included 25 Navy SEALs from SEAL Team Six, the unit that carried out the raid in Pakistan in May that killed bin Laden.
NATO confirmed the overnight crash took place and that there "was enemy activity in the area." But it said it was still investigating the cause and conducting a recovery operation at the site. It did not release details or casualty figures.

"We are in the process of accessing the facts," said U.S. Air Force Capt. Justin Brockhoff, a NATO spokesman.

Read more: Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members Of SEAL Team 6 | FoxNews.com


So now we will never get the whole story of SEAL Team 6 that took down Osama Bin Laden.


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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One current and one former U.S. official said that the dead included 25 Navy SEALs from SEAL Team Six, the unit that carried out the raid in Pakistan in May that killed bin Laden.
NATO confirmed the overnight crash took place and that there "was enemy activity in the area." But it said it was still investigating the cause and conducting a recovery operation at the site. It did not release details or casualty figures.

"We are in the process of accessing the facts," said U.S. Air Force Capt. Justin Brockhoff, a NATO spokesman.

Read more: Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members Of SEAL Team 6 | FoxNews.com


So now we will never get the whole story of SEAL Team 6 that took down Osama Bin Laden.


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
Lol, you are doing it again. Is there any chance you can answer any of the questions I put to you?

Where does it say that any of the members of Seal Team Six that took out Bin Laden were killed?

Field Guide to the Conspiracy Theorist: Dark Minds | Psychology Today

"Information is the conspiracy theorists' weapon of choice because if there's one thing they all agree on, it's that all the rest of us have been brainwashed. The "facts" will plainly reveal the existence of the conspiracy, they believe. And while all of us tend to bend information to fit our pre-existing cognitive schema, conspiracy theorists are more extreme. They are "immune to evidence," discounting contradictory information or seeing it as "proof of how clever the enemy is at covering things up," Goertzel says."
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