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Old 08-16-2011, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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If one uses a flat 15%, there just is not enough revenue compared to the current system.

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currently the federal REVENUE is about 2.3 trillion...which a budget of 3.5 trillion...big DEFICIT

currently the personal income tax only makes up about 1.2 trillion the othe 1.1 trillion comes from the payroll tax, the corporate tax, excise taxes, and the estate taxes.



total "personal" income (reported) in the usa is about 13 trillion...a 15% flat tax would net nearly 2 trillion in taxes (1.95t) thats nearly the ENTIRE revenue of the USA (2.3 trillion (which includes income, payroll, estate, corporate, excise, etc))the budget was 2 trillion nearly the entire 00's










tax EQUALLY or dont tax at all

I dont care if you earn 15k or 1.5 million or 7 billion..tax equally at ONE RATE

the rich (higher incomes) will pay more anyhow.....(using 10% as an example) a 10% tax on a 20k earner is 2k in taxes...a 10% tax on a 2 million dollar earner is 200k...but the rate is FAIR, EQUAL and does not discrimiante
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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currently the personal income tax only makes up about 1.2 trillion the othe 1.1 trillion comes from the payroll tax, the corporate tax, excise taxes, and the estate taxes.
So you want to tax the working poor about a quarter of their total income? [15% flat-tax plus Social Security tax (7%) plus Medicare tax (1.5%)]
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:05 AM
 
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Doesn't the tea party complain that Americans pay too much in taxes?



Rick Perry: Tax the Poor! | Truthout
Another liberal intentionally "not getting it". Sigh.....

The tea party folks complain that some pay too many taxes, while others pay NO taxes.
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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Yeah, tax the single mom who makes $7.25 an hour, that will generate tons of revenue.

There's a reason 50% of people don't pay taxes, they can't afford it. A person making $2 million a year can afford to pay. The wealthy don't need more tax cuts, they're given everything in life on a silver platter anyway.
Who exactly says they can't afford it? You? The president? Liberals? That mom?

I bet that mom "affords" a cell phone, cable, internet, eats out, smokes, drinks and watches movies.

Given everything in life on a silver platter? Or hard-working, sacrificing risk takers? Another liberal that thinks the wealthy are just "lucky". Makes it easier to not own up to their own failures - just blame "luck".
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:10 AM
 
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Personally I think its a question of how "Christian" people should think he is.

I don't think Jesus would be ok with tax the poor to maintain the wealth of the rich.

I don't think Jesus would be ok with the whole sit back and let a rich man steal from a poor man (underpay on wages, overcharge for rent, gas etc.)
What does being christian have to do with the tea party?
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So you want to tax the working poor about a quarter of their total income? [15% flat-tax plus Social Security tax (7%) plus Medicare tax (1.5%)]
are they part of this country???

should they not pay their fair share???

they use MORE of the services than anyone, should they not contribute??? why not just because they are 'poor'..gee maybe we should all quit our jobs and be 'poor' so the allknowing government can take care of us like a good nanny

I want EVERYONE to pay... the only way to have us survive is if we all work together..we ALL need to contribute..not just the 'evil rich'

or are liberals just LIARS when they talk about EQUALITY
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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Yeah, tax the single mom who makes $7.25 an hour, that will generate tons of revenue.

There's a reason 50% of people don't pay taxes, they can't afford it. A person making $2 million a year can afford to pay. The wealthy don't need more tax cuts, they're given everything in life on a silver platter anyway.
You must not know anyone wealthy then.
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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If my taxes go up,I will just spend less money at stores,food etc.Then the recession we are in will get worse not better .
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Old 08-16-2011, 12:16 PM
 
Location: California
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The poor can afford to pay some tax, everyone can. They benefit from the taxes and the more benefits they receive the more they can afford.

Everyone needs to pay something into the pot, contribute something for the greater good, or they remain dependent forever. It's child raising 101.
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Old 08-16-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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Do away with income tax all together and have a consumption tax on big ticket items that way more money goes to the waitress that might need a new ride and keep the current sales taxes.Cut the US government to the bone let the States worry about social issues,education,enviromental,work rules and regulations.The military might be going to a 401 k plan why can't SS be like a 401k health savings accounts that YOU THE TAX PAYER has control of not the government? Are they worried that might take their money tree away or power over the people? I can handle my own finances and decisions better than these idiots.
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