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President Obama got into a heated back-and-forth Monday with a Tea Party activist who demanded to know at the end of a town hall meeting here whether Vice President Biden had called Tea Partiers “terrorists” during the debt ceiling debate on Capitol Hill.
Obama wasn't in the room with Biden during that episode, was he? So if Obama can't categorically state Biden did or didn't say it, and Biden has denied it (in a way), just what was this guy looking for from Obama? If all he wanted to do was get Obama to say, "yes, Biden said that" and wouldn't let go of it, what can you do in the face of such obstinacy? Obama "denied what was all over TV nationally"? What, is there video of Biden calling the TP terrorists? No.
"We can't have a conversation because you're saying I called you a terrorist" the man says Obama told him. Well, if the guy wouldn't give up on that and didn't have another point to make, where is there room for conversation? So the guy said his piece. Good for him. Sounds like that's what he intended, to just vent.
The only horse crap is that mess the tea party is spewing. When the next Republican is elected, don't be a hypocrite and try to defend him/her when some of the opposition resorts to childish name calling and spreading lies. Since you think it is somehow patriotic to disrespect a sitting POTUS (and no I am not talking about disagreeing, I am talking about the disrespect), know that the knife cuts both ways. It is sad that so many US citizens find such unpatriotic behavior acceptable. The tea party and its supporters are an embarrasment to this country, fortunately people are begining to see them for what they are. Their days are numbered.
DECORAH, Iowa – President Obama got into a heated back-and-forth Monday with a Tea Party activist who demanded to know at the end of a town hall meeting here whether Vice President Biden had called Tea Partiers “terrorists” during the debt ceiling debate on Capitol Hill.
In public, Obama did not directly answer the question from Iowa Tea Party activist Ryan Rhodes about Biden. But Obama fired back that he knows better than anyone what it’s like to be slammed for his political views and was not about to accept a lecture on the topic.
“Now, in fairness, since I’ve been called a socialist who wasn’t born in this country, who is destroying America and taking away its freedoms because I passed a health care bill, I’m all for lowering the rhetoric," Obama said.
Obama did say he would discuss the matter further with Rhodes, founder of the Iowa Tea Party, after the event. And the duo was spotted in an animated conversation a few moments later.
In an interview later with Fox News, Rhodes claimed that the president had insisted that Biden had not made the original comment.
“He just denied it. He said the vice president didn't make any of those assertions,” Rhodes said. “If he doesn’t want to even admit what was on TV nationally -- all over the place -- then how can you have a conversation?”
Rhodes added that Obama brushed him aside. “Then he said, ‘We can't have a conversation because you're saying I called you a terrorist,’” recalled Rhodes. “The fact is it demonstrates the deep divide that he is unwilling to negotiate without going after the other side. The whole day was about going after Republicans and talking about how unreasonable they are.”
The private conversation between Rhodes and Obama was partially picked up by a TV camera, but the audio was tough to make out. Obama in general seemed to be saying the incident with Biden was misconstrued and that if Rhodes wanted to insist that the word “terrorist” was used then they were never going to see eye to eye.
The incident stems from a private meeting Biden attended, at the height of the debt ceiling debate, with House Democrats who were angry that Republicans were not meeting the president halfway. One lawmaker, Rep. Mike Doyle, D-Pa., went so far as to say that Republicans affiliated with the Tea Party had behaved like “terrorists” during the debate.
Some Democrats familiar with the meeting said at the time that Biden had appeared to agree with the sentiment expressed by Doyle and others as a way of moving the conversation along and convincing Democrats to support the final compromise. But Biden himself denied to CBS News that he had uttered the word “terrorist” in the meeting in the context of the Tea Party.
Here in Iowa, some people in the crowd seemed to be unhappy with Rhodes. One woman was overheard confronting him by saying, “That was extraordinarily rude” to the president.
A second woman who did not want to be identified by name said she felt the exchange was “over the top aggressive.”
But Rhodes was not backing down. “I said my piece,” he said.
First of all, who cares? He responded in a professional manner. Second of all, yes, he is our President thanks to over 69 million Americans (including me).
First of all, who cares? He responded in a professional manner. Second of all, yes, he is our President thanks to over 69 million Americans (including me).
You along with 69 million other Americans elected a professional liar.
So you think he should go around calling Muslims "terrorists" ?
I want him to acknowledge the fact that the terrorist attacks against this country have been committed by terrorists. Instead at his recent Ramadan dinner he made it sound like the Muslims were the heors on 9/11. He said Muslims were among the first responders and Muslims worked in the Twin Towers. He didn’t mention once that the attackers were Muslims.
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I think terrorist is a perfectly acceptable term to describe anyone who thinks default is better than raising taxes. The thinking does remind me of someone yearning for a mythical afterlife.
DECORAH, Iowa – President Obama got into a heated back-and-forth Monday with a Tea Party activist who demanded to know at the end of a town hall meeting here whether Vice President Biden had called Tea Partiers “terrorists” during the debt ceiling debate on Capitol Hill.
In public, Obama did not directly answer the question from Iowa Tea Party activist Ryan Rhodes about Biden. But Obama fired back that he knows better than anyone what it’s like to be slammed for his political views and was not about to accept a lecture on the topic.
“Now, in fairness, since I’ve been called a socialist who wasn’t born in this country, who is destroying America and taking away its freedoms because I passed a health care bill, I’m all for lowering the rhetoric," Obama said.
Obama did say he would discuss the matter further with Rhodes, founder of the Iowa Tea Party, after the event. And the duo was spotted in an animated conversation a few moments later.
In an interview later with Fox News, Rhodes claimed that the president had insisted that Biden had not made the original comment.
“He just denied it. He said the vice president didn't make any of those assertions,” Rhodes said. “If he doesn’t want to even admit what was on TV nationally -- all over the place -- then how can you have a conversation?”
Rhodes added that Obama brushed him aside. “Then he said, ‘We can't have a conversation because you're saying I called you a terrorist,’” recalled Rhodes. “The fact is it demonstrates the deep divide that he is unwilling to negotiate without going after the other side. The whole day was about going after Republicans and talking about how unreasonable they are.”
The private conversation between Rhodes and Obama was partially picked up by a TV camera, but the audio was tough to make out. Obama in general seemed to be saying the incident with Biden was misconstrued and that if Rhodes wanted to insist that the word “terrorist” was used then they were never going to see eye to eye.
The incident stems from a private meeting Biden attended, at the height of the debt ceiling debate, with House Democrats who were angry that Republicans were not meeting the president halfway. One lawmaker, Rep. Mike Doyle, D-Pa., went so far as to say that Republicans affiliated with the Tea Party had behaved like “terrorists” during the debate.
Some Democrats familiar with the meeting said at the time that Biden had appeared to agree with the sentiment expressed by Doyle and others as a way of moving the conversation along and convincing Democrats to support the final compromise. But Biden himself denied to CBS News that he had uttered the word “terrorist” in the meeting in the context of the Tea Party.
Here in Iowa, some people in the crowd seemed to be unhappy with Rhodes. One woman was overheard confronting him by saying, “That was extraordinarily rude” to the president.
A second woman who did not want to be identified by name said she felt the exchange was “over the top aggressive.”
But Rhodes was not backing down. “I said my piece,” he said.
If we are to believe him.....no. All we have are the accounts of those who were in the room. Not surprising they are not going to incriminate themselves.
I want him to acknowledge the fact that the terrorist attacks against this country have been committed by terrorists. Instead at his recent Ramadan dinner he made it sound like the Muslims were the heors on 9/11. He said Muslims were among the first responders and Muslims worked in the Twin Towers. He didn’t mention once that the attackers were Muslims.
you seem to use "muslim" and "terrorist" interchangably.
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So......Biden didn't say it.
