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There was a time when conservatism meant preserving what is best of the past and of tradition. Of particular concern was preserving virtue. How could anyone be against that?
Where it started to go wrong was when it decided to preserve things that were not worth keeping, and going to any length to accomplish this. In other words, they threw virtue out the window. Not that they did not give it lip service, with reference to family values and patriotism. One need only look beneath the rhetoric to see what they were really supporting, but many never looked, and whenever things got difficult, conservatives merely shouted louder, sounded angrier, and insisted that their two dimensional arguments reflected something fundamental.
Conservatism has always been a reactive ideology, reactive to perceived cultural threats. Today, just about anything suggested by a liberal is perceived as a threat of existential extreme. This is just another way in which conservatives undercut their own credibility. While this may have worked for a while, the paranoia they generate is losing its appeal, exciting a shrinking circle of extremists. Sort of like Chicken Little warning that the sky is falling. Some will believe it. Most will not. This is leaving an indelible stain of distrust on conservatism. Seeds For Thought.
ABC News’ Devin Dwyer (@devindwyer) reports: President Obama’s approval rating on the economy has plummeted 11 points since May to a new low for his presidency, according to a new Gallup survey.
Just 26 percent of Americans now think Obama is doing a good job handling the economy, down from 37 percent in mid-May – a sharp decline from the past 18 months when the number had hovered between 35-39 percent.
The poll, which was conducted Aug. 11-14, found 71 percent disapprove of the president’s handling of the economy, a new high. The margin of error is plus or minus 4 percentage points.
The figures underscore the challenges facing Obama following a bruising political battle over the debt ceiling, first downgrade of the U.S. credit rating, wild swings on Wall Street and persistent unemployment above 9 percent.......
Or maybe you should learn the definition of unfunded.
Maybe you should learn what programs are unfunded the most.
Not that understanding what you're arguing against is a tradition of the incompetent left.
But none of that has anything to do with your statement. You proposed that the GOP was responsible for the entire $130 trillion dollar debt (the actual existence of which is in doubt) , and so by default, according to your very proposal the GOP was responsible for the ENTIRE $130 trillion dollar debt (the actual existenbce of which is in doubt). Is this in any way unclear?
By the way, the national debt is currently ony 14 trillion dollars, not 130 trillion. Now, if you want to discuss what our future obligations are, fine, let's do that. But they aren't included in our CURRENT debt for good reasons. Can you think of any?
Republicans cut taxes and increased spending over the last three decades all while running a great economy into the ground. Now that their economic policies have led us to ruin, they want to propagate lies in order to attack the elderly and the poor.
Conservatism has lost its soul.
Well, there you go again!
Reagan reluctantly agreed, signing the bill into law, saying he was supporting "a limited loophole-closing tax increase to raise more than $98.3 billion over three years in return for ... agreement to cut spending by $280 billion during the same period."
Read more at the Washington Examiner: There they go again: Remembering the 'TEFRA Debacle of 1982' | The Examiner | Op Eds | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/07/there-they-go-again-remembering-tefra-debacle-1982#ixzz1VKlVE7Vm - broken link)
But none of that has anything to do with your statement. You proposed that the GOP was responsible for the entire $130 trillion dollar debt (the actual existence of which is in doubt) , and so by default, according to your very proposal the GOP was responsible for the ENTIRE $130 trillion dollar debt (the actual existenbce of which is in doubt). Is this in any way unclear?
It's only in doubt to you because you want to continue to spend like it's 1999. No one else in the existance of space-time questions that those programs (Mediscare, Medicaids and Social Insecurity) are in trouble and well under-funded.
I was trying to prove a point to that poster by saying if the entire deficit was the GOP's then looks at all this other debt that's coming due that far out weighs just the national debt. Of course the national debt isn't just the GOP's it's been growing since Andrew Jackson.
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Originally Posted by orogenicman
By the way, the national debt is currently ony 14 trillion dollars, not 130 trillion. Now, if you want to discuss what our future obligations are, fine, let's do that. But they aren't included in our CURRENT debt for good reasons. Can you think of any?
You need to go back and re-read.
Unfunded liabilities are liabilities those programs will be due to pay out but those funds aren't there. Those projections are for 2050.
Well said! But there are some that will never get it and those are the ones who will follow Obama no matter what he is doing! America is heading the wrong direction and these followers will be jumping off the cliff with Obama and on the way down patting each other on the back on what a great job they did.
sweeping generalizations= fact that far right has no ability to think critically, and analyze the grey areas.
Yawn...yeah no conservatives jumped off the cliff with Bush and his "WMD's....and "smoke 'em out of their holes"...rhetoric......what nonsense.
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...what nonsense.
