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Legalizing drugs basically eliminates the greatest source of income for these gangs/cartels. We need to do it and then treat all drugs like we do to tobacco products (education, taxation, regulation). We also need to have our military in on that conflict because it is the only conflict (going on) that is constitutionally correct (Iraq, Afgh/Pak, and Libya are not). The cartels will adapt - you can count on it. But, if we can make them less powerful by taking away their bread and butter - hellsyeah, let's do it.
Actually, while drugs ought to be legal, IMHO, we could develop a solution and keep them illegal as well.
We can change the tax laws and make it a consumption tax, so that everytime they buy something off of un-reported taxable income, they will have to pay more of their share.
And we can prevent them from buying anything in Mexico by opening the border, so that we have one flat rate for both countries, they would not be able to escape it.
And we can prevent them from buying cheaper goods elsewhere, through taxation on those imported products.
Meanwhile we can use the combined military to secure the borders and prevent cartel violence from hurting innocent people in both countries.
Make it all legal. In fact have the government sell the stuff dirt cheap but only in very small doses. Cut out the cartels revenue and we could save on by not spending on our war on drugs.
No reason to kill people if there isn't money into it unless you're insane.
What happens when the cartels come up with a better product than the stuff the government sells?
Make it all legal. In fact have the government sell the stuff dirt cheap but only in very small doses. Cut out the cartels revenue and we could save on by not spending on our war on drugs.
No reason to kill people if there isn't money into it unless you're insane.
Why not let the free market work instead, and add in a large consumption tax for those who want to buy it.
Let the government worry about controlling a black market of a legalized product that happens to emerge to avoid reporting revenues from the sales of weed?
Or even better, how about just treating it like we treat the internet.
Pay for it if you want, but if you can get it for free by growing it, or your friend gives you some, you don't have to pay any taxes for it.
That is why it won't be legal right now. They have not figured out how to balance personal liberty with collecting taxes... same old story as 1776, but only the names have changed for 2011
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Legalizing drugs basically eliminates the greatest source of income for these gangs/cartels. We need to do it and then treat all drugs like we do to tobacco products (education, taxation, regulation). We also need to have our military in on that conflict because it is the only conflict (going on) that is constitutionally correct (Iraq, Afgh/Pak, and Libya are not). The cartels will adapt - you can count on it. But, if we can make them less powerful by taking away their bread and butter - hellsyeah, let's do it.
This seems to be the best response I've seen here thus far. Strict regulation seems to make the most sense of it all. I also like the idea of the milatary protecting the actual homeland instead of overseas interests. Covincing the public of that and going through those transitions would likely take a generation or two to actually manifest. But generating the discussion is a start.
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Build a fence, put the military along the brder and shut it down. For once in a long time show we are able to do something.
Indeed, the North and South Koreans have been doing it for over 50 years. As if the DMZ idea hasn't generated animosity bewteen these neighboring countries. That would be the same idea on a grander scale along a 1969 mile long boder. That will also shut off access points for trade from not just Mexico but the Americas as well.
I'd like to start a compelling discussion on the future of the US/Mexican border. I only ask let’s try to keep this as civil as possible and discuss solutions and agree to disagree, try not to make it like a dog chasing its own tail.
I honestly feel neither Democrats nor Republicans have a grip on this situation. This story tends to take a backseat as there are obviously other pressing issues in the world. However the rate of violent crime in Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana is alarming and spilling over into the states. Some of this is rooted in the beginning of the war on drugs started back in the Nixon era and evolved into an endless cycle of gun exchange from the US and drug trade for an eager US market. If Mexico had more opportunities for its citizens it wouldn't be nearly as bad.
Rates of incarceration have skyrocketed in the US. Candidates like Ron Paul suggests a solution is to be more lenient on drug laws and policy. I can't see anybody else in the ring that would have the guts to make a claim and is very bold and outside the box. But I ponder it and wonder as this defeatist war on drugs carries on.
What do you think solutions are for this problem?
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