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Old 08-19-2011, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Think about it...

Who works for corporations? THE MIDDLE CLASS
Who buys goods/services from corporations? THE MIDDLE CLASS
Who owns corporations? THE MIDDLE CLASS

I don't think liberals even realize that corporations are 51% publicly owned. We're talking middle and working class people, retirement funds, pensions, 401ks, etc.

When liberals savage corporations, they're literally savaging working class and middle class people who work for corporations, they're savaging working/middle class people who own shares of corporations, and they're savaging people who buy from corporations. The reason liberals savage the middle class so viciously is so they can make the richest .5% even wealthier while the bottom 99.5% are all pushed down into poverty. It's not about spreading the wealth so much as its about hoarding the wealth and making everyone else a poor pauper, enslaved by the government elite.
Hamburgers, people, hamburgers...
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Think about it...

Who works for corporations? THE MIDDLE CLASS
Who buys goods/services from corporations? THE MIDDLE CLASS
Who owns corporations? THE MIDDLE CLASS
You're right. Bring on Fascism.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:19 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Who outsources to make a bigger profit? Corporations. Big corporations are no one's friends.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Southwest Desert
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I grew up in an era where people were able to earn a decent living running small stores and cafes and businesses in their hometowns. The free enterprise system was alive and well back then and open to everyone...Then corporations took over and opened their outlets and stores in every community and put small stores out of business...When I was growing up people didn't have to take out 401k's and rely on the stock market...People went to work for local companies and received pensions. Social Security checks stretched farther back in the old days...Today we're all "slaves" to corporations in one way or another. But corporations don't really feel loyal to us or our country....The Republican party seems like the "defenders of corporations" today. But both parties depend on corporations for campaign donations.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Debating the nonsense in post one is a worthless endeavor and not work my (or your) time.

The notion that "Attacks on Corporations ARE attacks on the middle class" is absurd.
In addition, the name of the Party is the DEMOCRATIC Party not the Democrat Party. I know your side has this problem with anything Democratic but work on it and you may succeed.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Absolutely absurd

Democrats don't support policies that favor racists, the behavior of racists, or the mechanisms that racists use to protect the wealth of the most privileged and deny equal opportunity. Unchecked, corporations maximize profits for those at the top while the quality of products suffer and worker pay and benefits remain subpar...all in the name of enhancing the fortunes of the privileged. Corporations freely discriminate when left unchecked, hiring black people last and firing them first. Corporations, unchecked, will displace millions of qualified americans to bring in foreign labor because it's cheaper. Damn employee loyalty. Damn the families which depend on the wage-earner. Keeping those at the top, fat, dump, and happy is paramount when the GOP is calling the shots.

Under the GOP, corporations exploit people to benefit a select few. This is similar to all that the GOP represents and practices. Bigoted, divisive, narrow-minded, and not good for the country, the GOP stinks. Liberal polices are far superior. An even and more equitable distribution of the wealth benefits the middle class. Keeping and retraining qualified american workers rather than displacing them with foreigners, benefits the middle class. Exploring solutions to help those in the lower class find a path to the middle class is a Liberal practice. GOP polices cause those in the lower class to be ignored, while the ranks of the lower class are joined by those in the middle class. The GOP only works to benefit the most privileged class while everyone else goes to hell.

Liberals support regulation to prevent discrimination. This benefits the middle class. This is especially true when talking about corporations. Very disturbing the continuing existence of the GOP, as Conservatives continue to ignore common sense, promote inequity, and support bigotry.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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And you know this how?
Over a half century of watching.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:55 PM
 
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The Republican party seems like the "defenders of corporations" today. But both parties depend on corporations for campaign donations.
You are absolutely right. That includes every political party. Some are just more honest about it. All politicians have to live in the same capitalistic world as we do and they need money. Anyone who refuses to believe that is simply whistling past the cemetery.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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Who owns corporations? THE MIDDLE CLASS
very interesting.

now, according to this, the bottom 80% of Americans own 15.3% of its wealth, according to a study at the Harvard school of business. It also states the top 1% has about 50% of the wealth.

http://www.people.hbs.edu/mnorton/no...in%20press.pdf

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Most scholars agree that wealth inequality in the United States
is at historic highs, with some estimates suggesting that the top
1% of Americans hold nearly 50% of the wealth, topping even
the levels seen just before the Great Depression in the 1920s
(Davies, Sandstrom, Shorrocks, & Wolff, 2009; Keister,
2000; Wolff, 2002).

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I don't think liberals even realize that corporations are 51% publicly owned. We're talking middle and working class people, retirement funds, pensions, 401ks, etc.
i'm sorry, do you have a source, or a link for this? i know how people like to pull numbers out of thin air -- of course, not you, BirchBarlow.
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Old 08-19-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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The chicken or the egg. Did the people come first or corporations? I'm no tool or resource to be used up by a corporation, period. And or be exploited by having my pockets picked by said corporation, especially those that bribe and control our government and politicians. Yes, they seem to be getting a bad rap lately, why is that?
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