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Again, as I said previously, anyone who defends or makes excuses for pedos harbors those same pedo thoughts as well.
I have not read of anyone so far here defending or excusing them...
Looking for explanations is something else, though. And it makes sense to do so, even if some people don't like any results that say anything else but that they are simply evil people deserving the death penalty
Pedophilia is an ancient problem, luckily we have come to consider it a problem in modern times. Among the ancient Greeks etc. it was common practice...
Pedophilia is an ancient problem, luckily we have come to consider it a problem in modern times. Among the ancient Greeks etc. it was common practice...
The Greeks did not practice pedophilia per se, but man-boy relationships. The boys in question were not prepubescent.
I have not read of anyone so far here defending or excusing them...
Looking for explanations is something else, though. And it makes sense to do so, even if some people don't like any results that say anything else but that they are simply evil people deserving the death penalty
Pedophilia is an ancient problem, luckily we have come to consider it a problem in modern times. Among the ancient Greeks etc. it was common practice...
Really? Read your own post! Oh ... this is not such a big deal as everyone wants to make it ... this was common practice with ancient Greeks?
I got news for you ... among the ancient Mayans, ripping people's still beating hearts out of the chests was an accepted religious practice .... so what's your point?
There are thousands of murders everyday .... thousands who starve to death .... in the time it takes to write this post, a dozen home invasions will occur, and some child will be molested ... some wife beaten .... some animal tortured ... someone's grandmother abused in a nursing home ... 500 infants injected with poison vaccines ....
According to your logic .... all is well with the world ... and this is all just much ado about nothing.
The Greeks did not practice pedophilia per se, but man-boy relationships. The boys in question were not prepubescent.
I remember that discussion on another board a few years ago, a very detailed discussion. Among the Greeks it was not at all confined to prepubescent boys at all, those were only the least severe of those cases, whereas most of the abuse of children and women was much worse and standard, and as such not written about.
Actually, it was not uncommon in all of Europe till after the middle ages...
Really? Read your own post! Oh ... this is not such a big deal as everyone wants to make it ... this was common practice with ancient Greeks?
I got news for you ... among the ancient Mayans, ripping people's still beating hearts out of the chests was an accepted religious practice .... so what's your point?
There are thousands of murders everyday .... thousands who starve to death .... in the time it takes to write this post, a dozen home invasions will occur, and some child will be molested ... some wife beaten .... some animal tortured ... someone's grandmother abused in a nursing home ... 500 infants injected with poison vaccines ....
According to your logic .... all is well with the world ... and this is all just much ado about nothing.
Why do you post such a pointless comment? I had written that in modern times we consider pedophilia a problem and I said luckily. So what is all that stupid ranting about? Just because I am interested in objective explanations rather than hateful condemnation?
A former singer and songwriter on the old "Captain Kangaroo" children's show, Reisman remade herself into a researcher (her doctorate is in communications, not any scientific discipline) and a self-proclaimed expert on pornography and anything that makes Kinsey look bad. After the Kinsey Institute criticized Reisman's 1990 Kinsey-bashing book -- described by one scholarly reviewer as "an inflated political pamphlet" filled with "innuendo, distortion, and selective representation of decontextualized 'facts'" -- Reisman sued the Kinsey Institute, claiming that it was trying to suppress publicity about her book.
Reisman was represented by the Rutherford Institute, a conservative legal organization best known for suing President Clinton on behalf of Paula Jones. The suit was eventually thrown out of court.
In 1984, a Reagan Justice Department official named Alfred Regnery -- better known as the operator of the conservative Regnery publishing house -- awarded Reisman a federal grant of more than $784,000 to study the content of 30 years of Playboy magazines. Her resulting research was dismissed as "paranoid, pseudoscientific hyperbole," and even Regnery regretted awarding her the grant.
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Even the consrvative-leaning Canadian newspaper the National Post wrote in a Dec. 11, 2004, editorial: "There is little reason to take Dr. Reisman seriously".
Kinsey doesn't need any assistance in looking bad. That depraved pedophile scumbag is the poster child for the depravity of human sexual pseudo-science, and the community of liberals who have and continue to glorify that animal. Of course, what do you expect from a community predisposed to unnatural sexual appetites for children.
That explains all of the defending, excuse making, marginalizing, and distorting of facts, now, doesn't it?
I mean, what other explanation is there? Oh, just the kinder, gentler nature of compassionate liberals to forgive and forget? Right.
Why do you post such a pointless comment? I had written that in modern times we consider pedophilia a problem and I said luckily. So what is all that stupid rambling about? Just because I am interested in objective explanations rather than hateful condemnation?
Because you make such absurd assertions that no one is excusing this behavior, while you yourself marginalize it to the point of minor inconvenience. Your outrage apparently consists of finding the silver lining ... that at least we're lucky that the modern view considers it a "problem"? No, child molestation is not a "problem". When I run out of Scotch, that's a problem. When I'm out of cigarettes, that's a problem. Molesting children is a heinous crime which deserves no tolerance whatsoever, including your marginalizing of it as a mere "problem"..
And I've got the objective explanation you're looking for ....... we have too large a group of tolerant politically correct pansies in this world who won't even verbally condemn heinous crime against our own children, let alone demand that our law enforcement and judicial officials stop coddling these creeps, and start doing what they are paid to do ... which is lock these deviates up and throw away the key. Wanna know what too much tolerance produces? It produces intolerable situations and conditions. That's the answer .... you may not like it, but that's it.
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Because you make such absurd assertions that no one is excusing this behavior, while you yourself marginalize it to the point of minor inconvenience. Your outrage apparently consists of finding the silver lining ... that at least we're lucky that the modern view considers it a "problem"? No, child molestation is not a "problem". When I run out of Scotch, that's a problem. When I'm out of cigarettes, that's a problem. Molesting children is a heinous crime which deserves no tolerance whatsoever, including your marginalizing of it as a mere "problem"..
And I've got the objective explanation you're looking for ....... we have too large a group of tolerant politically correct pansies in this world who won't even verbally condemn heinous crime against our own children, let alone demand that our law enforcement and judicial officials stop coddling these creeps, and start doing what they are paid to do ... which is lock these deviates up and throw away the key. Wanna know what too much tolerance produces? It produces intolerable situations and conditions. That's the answer .... you may not like it, but that's it.
Funny definition of problem. Running out of Scotch or cigarettes is a problem? I wish I had your problems If a society considers those things problems, no wonder they so readily lock away or even kill people...
But the Wild West solution won't solve the pedophilia problem just like the threat of the death penalty has never deterred murderers etc.
Crime experts study all sorts of crime, so why do you make such a fuss about studying pedophilia?
Funny definition of problem. Running out of Scotch or cigarettes is a problem? I wish I had your problems If a society considers those things problems, no wonder they so readily lock away or even kill people...
But the Wild West solution won't solve the pedophilia problem just like the threat of the death penalty has never deterred murderers etc.
Crime experts study all sorts of crime, so why do you make such a fuss about studying pedophilia?
The death penalty has proven to be 100% effective at preventing repeat offenses, which child molesters are particularly known for doing. As for the wild west .... it actually wasn't so wild ... that's the Hollywood version. Contrary to popular belief, the Old West was quite civil by comparison to today's inner cities, any one of which has a murder rate exponentially higher than the entirety of the country combined back in the day. There wasn't a lot of horse stealing in those days, because no one wanted to hang from the end of a rope for doing it. it was a significant deterrent. And a society in which most everyone carried and knew how to use a gun tended to encourage more polite public behavior too. A well armed society is a polite society .... and those who refused to be polite and good citizens generally didn't remain nuisances for long.
But, as I have already said, the death penalty isn't necessary, nor would I advocate it in any situation other than one where there was unquestionable proof of guilt, which is not often the case.
Personally, I'd prefer incarceration, castration, and a large tattoo of a "P" on the perps forehead. That way, upon release, he doesn't have the equipment to use as a weapon again .. nor the ability to disguise himself as a harmless member of society. Everyone would be able to at least identify the known molesters on sight.
As for "studying" pedophilia ... I have no problem with those who choose to study it. I just have a problem with those who choose to marginalize it ... explain it as something less than the the heinous act that it is, which seems to be the general theme of those who want to diagnose it as a birth defect. Study all you want ... just use inmates as the study group.
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750.520h Corroboration of victim's testimony not required.
Sec. 520h.
The testimony of a victim need not be corroborated in prosecutions under sections 520b to 520g.
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