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Old 08-22-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
And you are rather patently not one of them.

Since "children" is plural, a plural "modifier" such as "parents" does not imply or require that more than one parent for each child be a citizen.

Simple English.

But of course, we all know it doesn't matter since the Minor decision explicitly refused to define natural born citizen.
Nice try at a poor excuse. When you are talking about a singular parent, the proper word to use is PARENT not PARENTS. Any middle schooler knows this.
Here is something you should be interested in. And this completely explains why you guys are trying so hard to use the Minor vs.Harpersett case. The information of that case has been tampered with prior to the 2008 elections to make it fit Obama.

JUSTIA.COM CAUGHT RED HANDED HIDING REFERENCES TO MINOR v. HAPPERSETT IN PUBLISHED US SUPREME COURT OPINIONS.



Natural Born Citizen

 
Old 08-22-2011, 02:34 PM
 
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Nice try at a poor excuse. When you are talking about a singular parent, the proper word to use is PARENT not PARENTS. Any middle schooler knows this.
Here is something you should be interested in. And this completely explains why you guys are trying so hard to use the Minor vs.Harpersett case. The information of that case has been tampered with prior to the 2008 elections to make it fit Obama.

JUSTIA.COM CAUGHT RED HANDED HIDING REFERENCES TO MINOR v. HAPPERSETT IN PUBLISHED US SUPREME COURT OPINIONS.



Natural Born Citizen
Any third-grader knows that when you are talking about children with multiple parents, you have to use the word "parents". The Supreme Court justice actually has a mastery of English, but you don't.
 
Old 08-22-2011, 02:35 PM
 
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Yeah, in your mind, that's what it meant. Show me where he explained that in his statement.
The reality of it, is that he meant TWO parents as the use of the plural word PARENTS demonstrates. If he meant ONE parent, he would have said PARENT. It doesn't get any more basic than that.
The reality is that it wasn't an exclusive statement so it doesn't matter if he used plural or singular
 
Old 08-22-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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Any third-grader knows that when you are talking about children with multiple parents, you have to use the word "parents". The Supreme Court justice actually has a mastery of English, but you don't.
What are you talking about? The staement wasn't about multiple parents. Try and keep up, it was about a SINGLE PARENT! Do you even know what you are responding to? So, if you are saying that the statement WAS about multiple CITIZEN parents, then Obama is not eligible right?
 
Old 08-22-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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Obama had one American parent —singular — his mother. His father was a citizen of Kenya.
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yep. yet, knowing that fact, not a single congressman, judge, law professor or constitutional scholar has agreed that it makes obama ineligible.


why do you think that is?
 
Old 08-22-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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Every time the words, “citizen” and “parent,” are used by Sen. Leahy and Sec. Chertoff, the plural case, “citizens” and “parents,” is used.
That's because McCain actually was the son of two citizen parents.

What about that do you find confusing?

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The plural case is the operative case.
Plural is number. Not case.

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Old 08-22-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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June 18th, 1787 - Alexander Hamilton suggests that the requirement be added, as: "No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States."

July 25, 1787 - John Jay writes a letter to General Washington (president of the Constitutional Convention): "Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen."

September 2nd, 1787 George Washington pens a letter to John Jay. The last line reads: "I thank you for the hints contained in your letter"

September 4th, 1787 The "Natural Born Citizen" requirement is now found in their drafts.
 
Old 08-22-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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Nice try at a poor excuse. When you are talking about a singular parent, the proper word to use is PARENT not PARENTS. Any middle schooler knows this.
Here is something you should be interested in. And this completely explains why you guys are trying so hard to use the Minor vs.Harpersett case. The information of that case has been tampered with prior to the 2008 elections to make it fit Obama.

JUSTIA.COM CAUGHT RED HANDED HIDING REFERENCES TO MINOR v. HAPPERSETT IN PUBLISHED US SUPREME COURT OPINIONS.



Natural Born Citizen
LOL Donofrio is on the same level as Taitz!
 
Old 08-22-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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The reality is that it wasn't an exclusive statement so it doesn't matter if he used plural or singular
Yes it does matter. There is huge difference. The plural was used for a reason. You also need to read this.
JUSTIA.COM CAUGHT RED HANDED HIDING REFERENCES TO MINOR v. HAPPERSETT IN PUBLISHED US SUPREME COURT OPINIONS.
 
Old 08-22-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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Some say that my state has a enormous burden with educating the USA citizen children of undocumented workers (anchor babies). If one had to have two natural born parents to be a citizen, Texas would have kicked every child of alien parents out of school, no reduced or free lunch and no CHIPS. In a New York minute.
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