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Old 08-22-2011, 05:15 PM
 
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are those the same as natural born subjects?
Basically yes. Certainly in terms of Common law and American law which is based on common law. Just change "subject" to "citizen"

 
Old 08-22-2011, 05:17 PM
 
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Please note footnote 4...Morse references the 1863 Droit des Gens. Does anyone recognize its significance.

Well since it's in, what is that French? I would guess that it's significance as it applies to US law is zero
 
Old 08-22-2011, 05:38 PM
 
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Well since it's in, what is that French? I would guess that it's significance as it applies to US law is zero

The US Supreme Court has affirmed the Law of Nations (droit des gens) has been a part of our laws for over 200 years. The Obama supporters wants this information kept hidden.

Why?

The Law of Nations..Chapter XIX...."natural born citizens are born to citizen parents. A nation cannot perpetuate itself unless its citizens are born from citizens."

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Old 08-22-2011, 05:39 PM
 
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Basically yes.
i know.

i was just calling draggingcanoe on an obvious contradiction.
 
Old 08-22-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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...but he continues to avoid the courts.

Why?
he's dealt with the court every time he's had to.
 
Old 08-22-2011, 05:43 PM
 
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The above post really does not mean very much....
do you deny that the hawaiian DoH is the top authority when it comes to maintaining records of births within the state?
 
Old 08-22-2011, 05:51 PM
 
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The US Supreme Court has affirmed the Law of Nations (droit des gens) has been a part of our laws for over 200 years. The Obama supporters wants this information kept hidden.

Why?

The Law of Nations..Chapter XIX...."natural born citizens are born to citizen parents. A nation cannot perpetuate itself unless its citizens are born from citizens."

Sorry, but simply BS on this Law of Nations stuff.
 
Old 08-22-2011, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Sorry, but simply BS on this Law of Nations stuff.
Really???

“For two centuries we have affirmed that the domestic law of the United States recognizes the law of nations” Sosa v. Alvarez-Machain, 542 US 692 - Supreme Court 2004


George Washington: “Prosecute all crimes against the Law of Nations”
 
Old 08-22-2011, 06:24 PM
 
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...but he continues to avoid the courts.

Why?
As Napoleon put it: Don't stop an enemy who's making a mistake.

As long as you and yours keep the issue alive, you're forcing any serious Republican contender to address it. And seeing as there's no way to do that without either p.ssing off the Birthers or look like a raving lunatic, having the issue out front is win-win for Obama.

You're carrying Obama's water. And I for one couldn't be more amused.

Besides, as wrecking ball points out, the relevant authority (Hawaiian DoH) has gone on the record already. Any court would get a fresh-from-laserprinter COLB and be forced to accept it - "full faith and credit", remember?
 
Old 08-22-2011, 06:29 PM
 
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George Washington: “Prosecute all crimes against the Law of Nations”
you think he was talking about de vattel's book? if that were they case then washington would say you should be prosecuted for speaking out against the government ( that is in de vattel's book ).
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