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Old 08-24-2011, 04:38 PM
 
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It was gone forever in 1999. Read the DoD audit report.
Defense.gov News Article: Reforming Financial Management System Can Save Big

Rumsfeld was stating an already known fact. Everyone already knew the $2.3 TRILLION had gone missing in 1999 under the CLINTON admin.
Then Rumsfeld found it... testifies the day before 9/11... It's gone forever...
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:14 AM
 
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No, but they have created millions of jobs for the Chinese.
and India and the Phillipines...
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:07 AM
 
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Then Rumsfeld found it... testifies the day before 9/11... It's gone forever...
Where's Rumsfeld's testimony that he 'found' CLINTON's missing $2.3 TRILLION?
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:14 AM
 
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Where's Rumsfeld's testimony that he 'found' CLINTON's missing $2.3 TRILLION?
thers is no talking to him

Pentagon's finances in disarray

By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/00 5:44 PM Eastern

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday.

The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments.

Each adjustment represents a Defense Department accountant's attempt to correct a discrepancy. The military has hundreds of computer systems to run accounts as diverse as health care, payroll and inventory. But they are not integrated, don't produce numbers up to accounting standards and fail to keep running totals of what's coming in and what's going out, Pentagon and congressional officials said.

"These ($6.9 trillion in) entries were processed to force financial data to agree with various data sources, to correct errors and to add new data," the inspector general said. "The magnitude of accounting entries required to compile the DoD financial statements highlights the significant problems DoD has producing accurate and reliable financial statements with existing systems and processes."

The department's "internal controls were not adequate to ensure that resources were properly managed and accounted for, that DoD complied with applicable laws and regulations and that the financial statements were free of material misstatements," the report said.

"One expects that the financial statements of an entity, whether of an agency or a company, should reflect accurately what the department or company has and fairly present the results of their operations," said Jay Lane, chief of the inspector general's finance and accounting directorate. "We're saying we can't audit that to tell you that."

The military says it owns $119.3 billion in ships, trucks, jet engines and more. But its inspector general said he could not verify that because records lacked supporting documentation.

The U.S. military's financial records are not in good enough shape to face an audit, let alone pass one, the inspector general said.

As jumbled as its books are, the Pentagon is not alone: Only 11 of 24 big federal agencies could produce reliable financial statements for the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, said Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn., chairman of the Senate Governmental Affairs committee.

Still, the Pentagon had much more not to account for than the other 10 agencies. The military says it spent $275.5 billion in fiscal 1999, just under half of the $575 billion Congress appropriated for the federal government, according to Lisa Jacobson, director of defense financial audits at the General Accounting Office. The GAO is Congress' auditing arm.

The inability to account for where the money went doesn't just make the military less efficient, she and others said, but also makes the armed forces less responsive to the will of Congress. Without sound costing data, the Pentagon can't make good decisions, they contend. For example, they say, the military can't measure the results of closing a base; can't effectively decide whether to contract out a service or keep it in government hands; may inaccurately peg the cost of programs under debate, from national missile defense to retirees' health care.

"Last year, the Defense Department corrected errors in its bookkeeping that totaled $2.3 trillion -- more than the entire federal budget," Thompson said in a statement, calling them "changes made to plug holes for things they couldn't explain."

"Congress is not assured that DoD is spending money in accordance with its wishes," the GAO's Jacobson said.

Despite their criticisms, Jacobson and others say the Pentagon is improving. Its comptroller, William Lynn, said in a statement that the military's computer systems are good enough to make it accountable to Congress. But he added: "Unfortunately, they do not do a good job of producing financial statements."

The first year agencies were required to say whether their books could be audited was fiscal 1996. This is the fourth consecutive year the Pentagon has answered no.

"When you spend money, you account for it -- that is required in the federal government," Jacobson said. "But DoD doesn't have that. They just say, ... `We had money, we spent it.'

"Then they try to go back later and say how they spent it and try to pull the balance sheet together."






the money was never missing..just could not account how it was spent
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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2.3 TRillion Dollars Missing from DOD Day before 911 2001 Rumsfeld LIES - YouTube
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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The money wasn't missing in 2001, it went missing in 1999. Read the DoD audit report.

Rumsfeld was reiterating the 1999 audit's findings.

At what time point in the video does Rumsfeld say he found the missing $2.3 Trillion?
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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The money wasn't missing in 2001, it went missing in 1999. Read the DoD audit report.

Rumsfeld was reiterating the 1999 audit's findings.

At what time point in the video does Rumsfeld say he found the missing $2.3 Trillion?
At the 3:05 mark...



Anthony Antonello asks Donald Rumsfeld if he ever found that missing $2.3 Trillion - YouTube


We Are Change NEPA activists Anthony Antonello and Danny Panzella wait at CPAC to ask Donald Rumsfeld if he ever found that $2.3 Trillion that he said was unaccounted for at a press conference the day before 9/11. To his credit, Rumsfeld responds, though with a dubious answer. The former Secretary of Defense explains that the $2.3 Trillion was never truly lost, but rather untracked in a complex accountability system.

» Rumsfeld says $2.3 Trillion never lost, just untracked Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:36 AM
 
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And you lefties are fighting to give MORE money to the government to "lose".
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:37 AM
 
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the title of you utude garbage

how is rummy lying ( I cant stand rummy, but you are going off the deep end with this)



Pentagon's finances in disarray

By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/2000 5:44 PM Eastern

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday.

The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments.

Each adjustment represents a Defense Department accountant's attempt to correct a discrepancy. The military has hundreds of computer systems to run accounts as diverse as health care, payroll and inventory. But they are not integrated, don't produce numbers up to accounting standards and fail to keep running totals of what's coming in and what's going out, Pentagon and congressional officials said.

"These ($6.9 trillion in) entries were processed to force financial data to agree with various data sources, to correct errors and to add new data," the inspector general said. "The magnitude of accounting entries required to compile the DoD financial statements highlights the significant problems DoD has producing accurate and reliable financial statements with existing systems and processes."

The department's "internal controls were not adequate to ensure that resources were properly managed and accounted for, that DoD complied with applicable laws and regulations and that the financial statements were free of material misstatements," the report said.
"One expects that the financial statements of an entity, whether of an agency or a company, should reflect accurately what the department or company has and fairly present the results of their operations," said Jay Lane, chief of the inspector general's finance and accounting directorate. "We're saying we can't audit that to tell you that."

The military says it owns $119.3 billion in ships, trucks, jet engines and more. But its inspector general said he could not verify that because records lacked supporting documentation.

The U.S. military's financial records are not in good enough shape to face an audit, let alone pass one, the inspector general said.

As jumbled as its books are, the Pentagon is not alone: Only 11 of 24 big federal agencies could produce reliable financial statements for the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, said Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn., chairman of the Senate Governmental Affairs committee.

Still, the Pentagon had much more not to account for than the other 10 agencies. The military says it spent $275.5 billion in fiscal 1999, just under half of the $575 billion Congress appropriated for the federal government, according to Lisa Jacobson, director of defense financial audits at the General Accounting Office. The GAO is Congress' auditing arm.

The inability to account for where the money went doesn't just make the military less efficient, she and others said, but also makes the armed forces less responsive to the will of Congress. Without sound costing data, the Pentagon can't make good decisions, they contend. For example, they say, the military can't measure the results of closing a base; can't effectively decide whether to contract out a service or keep it in government hands; may inaccurately peg the cost of programs under debate, from national missile defense to retirees' health care.

"Last year, the Defense Department corrected errors in its bookkeeping that totaled $2.3 trillion -- more than the entire federal budget," Thompson said in a statement, calling them "changes made to plug holes for things they couldn't explain."

"Congress is not assured that DoD is spending money in accordance with its wishes," the GAO's Jacobson said.

Despite their criticisms, Jacobson and others say the Pentagon is improving. Its comptroller, William Lynn, said in a statement that the military's computer systems are good enough to make it accountable to Congress. But he added: "Unfortunately, they do not do a good job of producing financial statements."

The first year agencies were required to say whether their books could be audited was fiscal 1996. This is the fourth consecutive year the Pentagon has answered no.

"When you spend money, you account for it -- that is required in the federal government," Jacobson said. "But DoD doesn't have that. They just say, ... `We had money, we spent it.'

"Then they try to go back later and say how they spent it and try to pull the balance sheet together."


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funny you dont mention the other 11 federal agencies under CLINTON that could not account for theor spending


----------proven HC is the LIAR----------------
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:37 AM
 
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And you lefties are fighting to give MORE money to the government to "lose".
To more tax cuts for the top 1%...
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