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Old 08-24-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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Going back to doing jobs by hand ,automation has taken away so many jobs .
I can't remember where I heard it a few weeks ago, but someone was saying we are getting close to pre-recession economic output even with the higher unemployment rate. US companies are getting better at squeezing out the most productivity from their workers and technology is reducing the need for more workers. The problem right now is how do create policies to get those displaced workers into new careers.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Didn't this 'automation kills jobs' thing already happen with the whole industrial revolution?

We somehow managed to get through that.

Even after we exported our manufacturing jobs overseas 100 years later, we had the tech boom to provide jobs again. Now that we can export tech, we need to figure out our next step...not try to revert to the 'olden days' or whatever.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:20 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Anyone ever thought the jobs will never come back?

Why do people think 9% unemployment won't become the new normal?
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Anyone ever thought the jobs will never come back?

Why do people think 9% unemployment won't become the new normal?
Exactly! We have a HUGE undereducated, fairly skill-less population in this country. Then we have people in power who want to continue enabling being dumb and not productive.

Here are some nice stats...we rank right in line with a lot of socialist countries: International Unemployment Rates and Employment Indexes, Seasonally Adjusted, 2007-2011

Geezus...what's up with Spain?
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:25 AM
 
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Anyone ever thought the jobs will never come back?

Why do people think 9% unemployment won't become the new normal?
What do you mean comeback? Jobs don't comeback from anywhere.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:27 AM
 
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Didn't this 'automation kills jobs' thing already happen with the whole industrial revolution?

We somehow managed to get through that.

Even after we exported our manufacturing jobs overseas 100 years later, we had the tech boom to provide jobs again. Now that we can export tech, we need to figure out our next step...not try to revert to the 'olden days' or whatever.
Exactly. We need to step up our game and be the leaders of the new industries.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:29 AM
 
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Personally, I'd love to see no Employer FICA Taxes for four years, when hiring those unemployed beyond 6 months, while not simply firing other workers.

Make them show payroll records indicating total employee hours are up (2,080 = 1 FTE basis), and average payroll rate did not fall.

I'd also like a clawback provision, so if the economy overall did not fully reflect these net additions to overall employment, all who received them, even though they abided by terms, would have to pay back a portion (perhaps 1/2) of them. That would allow us to have stable employers view and treat unstable ones as their enemies.
Here's a really novel idea...

Manufacture goods that people need and want, now here's the "out of the box" part...manufacture the stuff right here in the USA!
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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What do you mean comeback? Jobs don't comeback from anywhere.
That is the point...I don't see the unemployment rate going back down ever,well perhaps officially because the fedgov. will simply change the way it counts those out of work....
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Exactly. We need to step up our game and be the leaders of the new industries.
What ''new industries'' are you referring to?
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:35 AM
 
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I can't remember where I heard it a few weeks ago, but someone was saying we are getting close to pre-recession economic output even with the higher unemployment rate. US companies are getting better at squeezing out the most productivity from their workers and technology is reducing the need for more workers. The problem right now is how do create policies to get those displaced workers into new careers.
Yeah, somebody somewhere is building those technological machines and I can pretty much bet than when you turn them over they read "Made in China". Thanks to radical right wing policies, thsi country is lagging behind in education that produces the innovation and innovators of the future.
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