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Old 10-28-2011, 05:51 PM
 
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"Gadaffi failed to see what was happening. Going from humble Bedouin herdsman to absolute ruler was too much, too fast. Gadaffi was not crazy, but for sure he was the oddest person I have met. But he was also sly as a fox and truly charismatic. In a world of Arab dictators in poorly tailored suits, Gadaffi was a peacock – albeit a dangerous one."

"After all these years, I still can’t figure out whether Gadaffi was really hearing voices that guided him, or just having adolescent fun scandalizing and frightening the world."

The Gadaffi I Knew by Eric Margolis
Dry your tears and continue the fight: the one you were shown was not Muammar Al-Gaddafi

According to reports reaching us, the martyr humiliated and presented as Muammar Al-Gaddafi, in videos and photographs that have been shown around the world, has been identified as the real person actually called Ali Majid Al Andalus who was an inhabitant of Sirte in Libya and was famous for his resemblance to the brother Leader of the El Fateh Revolution.

 
Old 10-28-2011, 06:26 PM
 
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Gadaffi Death. NATO WAS THERE. PROOF!


Gadaffi Death. NATO WAS THERE. PROOF! - YouTube
 
Old 10-28-2011, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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"Gadaffi failed to see what was happening. Going from humble Bedouin herdsman to absolute ruler was too much, too fast. Gadaffi was not crazy, but for sure he was the oddest person I have met. But he was also sly as a fox and truly charismatic. In a world of Arab dictators in poorly tailored suits, Gadaffi was a peacock – albeit a dangerous one."

"After all these years, I still can’t figure out whether Gadaffi was really hearing voices that guided him, or just having adolescent fun scandalizing and frightening the world."

The Gadaffi I Knew by Eric Margolis
Those that knew him well, thought very highly of him. Farrakhan was one such person.
Nation Of Islam Leader Slams Qaddafi's Death | Fox News
If people were willing to look behind the media spin, and actually learn about this man, his family life, his Green Book. They would find the truth. He was a good man, with great dreams for the people of Africa. He didn't deserve what happened to him, nobody does. His faithful Intelligence Commander was recently thrown out a 2nd story window. They won't let him be interviewed. These people are savages.
 
Old 10-28-2011, 08:12 PM
 
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Gadaffi Death. NATO WAS THERE. PROOF!


Gadaffi Death. NATO WAS THERE. PROOF! - YouTube
Not a surprise. The rebels would have packed it up a long time ago, if not for NATO and boots on the ground directing them, training them, focusing them.
I have learned a great deal from this Libya experience, for one thing, there are good muslims and bad muslims. I have a hard time accepting that Gaddafi was Sharia, but Mathaba said he was. Can you explain HC?
I plan to purchase the books on Qaddafi that Mathaba recommends. He is a fascinating person.
Today the news said that Saif wants to turn himself in for war crimes. ?
 
Old 10-28-2011, 08:19 PM
 
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Not a surprise. The rebels would have packed it up a long time ago, if not for NATO and boots on the ground directing them, training them, focusing them.
I have learned a great deal from this Libya experience, for one thing, there are good muslims and bad muslims. I have a hard time accepting that Gaddafi was Sharia, but Mathaba said he was. Can you explain HC?
I plan to purchase the books on Qaddafi that Mathaba recommends. He is a fascinating person.
Today the news said that Saif wants to turn himself in for war crimes. ?

Saif Qaddafi is not turning himslef in... You can't go by ANYTHING mainstream says...


Libya - Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, new leader of the Libyan Resistance - YouTube
 
Old 10-28-2011, 10:55 PM
 
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Identification of the body would have been simple.

(Note: Peter's New York cannot affirm the death of Libyan leader Col. Muammar Qaddafi until verifiably authentic statements by close family members attest to the same, and/or until customary methods of identification, such as fingerprints, are used to verify the identity of the corpses, which were held for several days by NTC forces before alleged burial at an undisclosed location. Formal death certificates must also be presented for examination by the public. The international mass media has failed to demand such verification, which failure encourages the replication of abuses of the public trust and crimes against humanity.)
OpEdNews - Diary: News Service Aligned With Qaddafi Identifies Victim As Body Of Another
 
Old 10-28-2011, 10:58 PM
 
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Identification of the body would have been simple.

(Note: Peter's New York cannot affirm the death of Libyan leader Col. Muammar Qaddafi until verifiably authentic statements by close family members attest to the same, and/or until customary methods of identification, such as fingerprints, are used to verify the identity of the corpses, which were held for several days by NTC forces before alleged burial at an undisclosed location. Formal death certificates must also be presented for examination by the public. The international mass media has failed to demand such verification, which failure encourages the replication of abuses of the public trust and crimes against humanity.)
OpEdNews - Diary: News Service Aligned With Qaddafi Identifies Victim As Body Of Another
It appears to have been one of his doubles... The hair sample turned out to be a wig...
 
Old 10-29-2011, 04:49 PM
 
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Those that knew him well, thought very highly of him. Farrakhan was one such person.
Nation Of Islam Leader Slams Qaddafi's Death | Fox News
If people were willing to look behind the media spin, and actually learn about this man, his family life, his Green Book. They would find the truth. He was a good man, with great dreams for the people of Africa. He didn't deserve what happened to him, nobody does. His faithful Intelligence Commander was recently thrown out a 2nd story window. They won't let him be interviewed. These people are savages.
I'm sure Mussolini had friends who spoke highly of him too.

Let's be clear. The right-wing is desperate to call this a failure because they hate Obama and want to subdue any success and emphasize every failure. To put it bluntly, when was the last time Fox had presented Farrakhan in good light? Funny that he's now considered a statesman by Fox -- when he's critical of an Obama policy.

We don't have to listen to "media spin." We just need only to view a jubilant Libya to know first-hand what those who knew him well -- the Libyan people, thought of him. I don't see many Libyans crying for him.
 
Old 10-29-2011, 05:04 PM
 
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I'm sure Mussolini had friends who spoke highly of him too.

Let's be clear. The right-wing is desperate to call this a failure because they hate Obama and want to subdue any success and emphasize every failure. To put it bluntly, when was the last time Fox had presented Farrakhan in good light? Funny that he's now considered a statesman by Fox -- when he's critical of an Obama policy.

We don't have to listen to "media spin." We just need only to view a jubilant Libya to know first-hand what those who knew him well -- the Libyan people, thought of him. I don't see many Libyans crying for him.
What you saw was the people of Libya cheering because they drove out NATO and the rebel "rats"...
 
Old 10-29-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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What you saw was the people of Libya cheering because they drove out NATO and the rebel "rats"...
Oh please.
Wow, are you in denial. Listen carefully at the man in the car at 48 sec:
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