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Old 08-26-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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That is what I said. The right is pro-war when the right is in power and the left is pro-war when the left is in charge.

I never saw the left in the protest against the Kosavo war and I never saw the right in the protests against the Iraq war.



I don't find these conspiracies as clean as some people do but I do find some things very interesting. Recently a letter threatening Andrew Jackson (notorious anti-banker) was said to be from John Wilkes Booths father. Letter threatening Jackson's life determined to be written by father of man who killed Lincoln » Knoxville News Sentinel

It is true Lincoln went to the banks for war funds and he turned down their massive interest charges and issued debt free currency. I am sure the banks weren't happy. Within one year of his death congress had passed the Contraction Act which began the process of pulling debt free currency from the money supply.



Qaddafi is no saint but we are not there because of his evil acts, it is all about his support of the African Union efforts. This needs to be the focus, not trying to make Qaddafi out to be a good guy, sure he does good things for some of his people but not everyone.
Well... It's difficult to be a world leader and be a saint... but Qaddafi isn't bothering us... The U.S. wants us to think he is...

 
Old 08-26-2011, 11:25 AM
 
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Libya had nothing to do with Pan Am 103... Iran did that... Libya gets blamed for the things Iran does...
oh


February 2011 In an interview with Swedish newspaper Expressen on 23 February 2011, Mustafa Mohamed Abud Al Jeleil, former Justice Secretary of Libya, claimed to have evidence that Gaddafi personally ordered Al-Megrahi to carry out the bombing.

Quotes: "[Jalil] told Expressen Khadafy [sic] gave the order to Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, the only man convicted in the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, which killed all 259 people on board and 11 on the ground on 21 Dec. 1988. 'To hide it, he (Khadafy) did everything in his power to get al-Megrahi back from Scotland,' Abdel-Jalil was quoted as saying."

Al Jalil's commentary to the Expressen came during widespread political unrest and protests in Libya calling for the removal of Ghaddafi from power. The protests were part of a massive wave of unprecedented uprisings across the Arab world in: Tunisia, Morocco, Bahrain and Egypt, where Egyptian protesters effectively forced the removal of long-term ruler, Hosni Mubarak, from office. Jalil's comments came on a day when Ghaddafi's defiance and refusal to leave his command prompted his brutal attacks on Libyan protesters.

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On 15 August 2003, Libya's UN ambassador, Ahmed Own, submitted a letter to the UN Security Council formally accepting "responsibility for the actions of its officials" in relation to the Lockerbie bombing




so much for your theory.....
 
Old 08-26-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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It is not Oil, it is banking. Qaddafi funded a start up African banking system in December, it will help Africa break free of France and the IMF. Libya's oil is not a big factor, they don't have much.
I wonder when they will go after Venezuela next since he wants to establish a regional bank that is free from IMF influence
 
Old 08-26-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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It is not Oil, it is banking. Qaddafi funded a start up African banking system in December, it will help Africa break free of France and the IMF. Libya's oil is not a big factor, they don't have much.
Libya does have the largest oil reserves in the entire continent of Africa... but the main reason all this is happening is because Qaddafi was starting a central bank in Libya...
It's similar to what Lincoln did during the Civil War...
 
Old 08-26-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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Libya does have the largest oil reserves in the entire continent of Africa... but the main reason all this is happening is because Qaddafi was starting a central bank in Libya...
It's similar to what Lincoln did during the Civil War...
People have to rmemeber, what did the rebels do recently in Benghazi? They established a central bank! Ragtag rebels don't do that!
 
Old 08-26-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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NATO bluff called by Qaddafi, rebels’ victory facade crumbles...

» Libya: NATO Psy-Op Collapses – Qaddafi Prevails Again Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!


“Illustrious” news agencies from the Qatari government’s AlJazeera, to the now exposed frauds at CNN, BBC, Reuters, AP, AFP have been caught perpetuating a concerted war propaganda campaign in order to break the will of both Libya and in particular Tripoli.




Photo: Taken overnight, Qaddafi’s son Saif Al-Islam “confirmed” to be captured is actually very much free and leading efforts to drive out NATO backed Al Qaeda thugs from Tripoli.

Is that EGG on your face?


 
Old 08-26-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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oh


February 2011 In an interview with Swedish newspaper Expressen on 23 February 2011, Mustafa Mohamed Abud Al Jeleil, former Justice Secretary of Libya, claimed to have evidence that Gaddafi personally ordered Al-Megrahi to carry out the bombing.

Quotes: "[Jalil] told Expressen Khadafy [sic] gave the order to Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, the only man convicted in the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, which killed all 259 people on board and 11 on the ground on 21 Dec. 1988. 'To hide it, he (Khadafy) did everything in his power to get al-Megrahi back from Scotland,' Abdel-Jalil was quoted as saying."

Al Jalil's commentary to the Expressen came during widespread political unrest and protests in Libya calling for the removal of Ghaddafi from power. The protests were part of a massive wave of unprecedented uprisings across the Arab world in: Tunisia, Morocco, Bahrain and Egypt, where Egyptian protesters effectively forced the removal of long-term ruler, Hosni Mubarak, from office. Jalil's comments came on a day when Ghaddafi's defiance and refusal to leave his command prompted his brutal attacks on Libyan protesters.

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On 15 August 2003, Libya's UN ambassador, Ahmed Own, submitted a letter to the UN Security Council formally accepting "responsibility for the actions of its officials" in relation to the Lockerbie bombing




so much for your theory.....
That was made up...

Iran bombed Pan Am 103 in retaliation... because the U.S. shot down an Iran Airlines jetliner in that Summer 1988..

Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Iran Air Flight 655 (IR655) was a civilian jet airliner shot down by U.S. missiles on 3 July 1988, over the Strait of Hormuz, toward the end of the Iran–Iraq War. The aircraft, an Airbus A300B2-203 operated by Iran Air, was flying from Bandar Abbas, Iran, to Dubai, United Arab Emirates, when it was destroyed by the U.S. Navy's guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes, killing all 290 passengers and crew aboard, including 66 children.
 
Old 08-26-2011, 11:33 AM
 
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Uh... No... It's not...
 
Old 08-26-2011, 11:34 AM
 
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That was made up...

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oh
so that is how it is

we prove you wrong, and 'its made up'

got it

you have zero integrity
 
Old 08-26-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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That was made up...

Iran bombed Pan Am 103 in retaliation... because the U.S. shot down an Iran Airlines jetliner in that Summer 1988..

Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Iran Air Flight 655 (IR655) was a civilian jet airliner shot down by U.S. missiles on 3 July 1988, over the Strait of Hormuz, toward the end of the Iran–Iraq War. The aircraft, an Airbus A300B2-203 operated by Iran Air, was flying from Bandar Abbas, Iran, to Dubai, United Arab Emirates, when it was destroyed by the U.S. Navy's guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes, killing all 290 passengers and crew aboard, including 66 children.

That was made up.

Qadaffy Duck downed Pan Am 103 in retaliation for the 1986 airstrikes ordered by Reagan.

Bombing of Libya (1986) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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