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]I believe being gay is a choice and a poor choice. I teach my children this. This does not mean I teach my children to shame or chastise others for their choices as that is not their role. These are my opinions, no more no less.
I believe willful ignorance is a choice and a poor choice. I teach my children this. I chastise others when their willful ignorance is tantamount to bigotry. That's my opinion.
Have you ever met a single gay person who says its a choice? I've been gay for 37 years and haven't.
When did you decide to be heterosexual? Would you be equally satisfied performing fellatio on a man, but you simply choose to be with women?
but it's kinda been said that liberals tend to get degrees in "philosophical meaning of hotdogs during medieval times" and other "liberal arts"...so of course they find stuff like this "educational"....and without it you're "ignorant"....and then wonder why they can't get a job....who the hell told you to major in 16th century art?.....(I was in highschool when my lab teacher told me his niece couldn't get a job, despite her having a degree in photographer)...you may not be as wealthy as that guy with a major in business and a minor in mathematics, but at least you're "smarter" then him...
Got any stats to back that up? This liberal has undergraduate and graduate degrees in computer science and engineering.
What the "liberals" want (and this has nothing at all to with Leftism), is for people to make their own decisions about this stuff without the government regulating personal behavior where other people's rights aren't implicated.
Which should be the same thing that any conservative would want: less government intrusion and bureacracy.
So you aren't really a conservative. You are an authoritarian.
Let's stick to the topic of school libraries, shall we. You can order all the trash you want for the public library, which I now avoid. Hopefully, more parents are becoming aware of what is in the library and can make the same informed decision. Unfortunately, many parents cannot afford to homeschool or private school and are forced to send their children to the public schools where this trash has infiltrated the classrooms. They cannot just change the channel with regard to their child's education, as we are so oft glibly told to do.
Time to wake up parents and taxpayers! Is this what you want your children to be learning?
You have the option to homeschool your children and produce bigoted, extremely paranoid offspring with low or nonexistant social skills. That is your choice. So yes, you do have options.
I'm little concerned with what people call me, although my favorite is when my daughter says "You're the best Daddy in the world!" and hugs me tight. Anything else,... pfffft!
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Then stop trying to change the school curriculums to suite your agenda, leave it as is, and parent your children accordingly. But you are implying that changing it to suite your belief system is the right thing to do. The irony.
Then I'll ask that you also stop trying to change the schools and not provide a forum in any form which promotes such alternative lifestyles. When I was in school we didn't need to have explained to us why Suzy has two mommies, why we shouldn't tease Jimmy for wanting to dress like a princess (becasue he would not have dared to do so), why some boys just like boys, why books that show two princes getting married are good to read in class, why books about a couple of qu**r penguins somehow teach valuable lessons, etc. There were no straight-gay-student-alliance clubs, we didn't take off to support gay pride parades on Main Street, and why the football coach just got married to some other guy and we should be happy for him. And there's no agenda to normalize such things in the impressionable minds of children? Yeah, right...
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Yes, let's just call people abnormal and sick. Unless of course it's your children that are being called that, then it's an abomination. The irony.
Uh-uh! "Abomination" is a word reserved for religious zealots. I don't think either of us fit that category. You seem to like the word "irony", too. And I'm teaching my children to handle others' opinions appropriately.
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So people who don't share your opinions are stupid? Wow, you are such a great role model for kids.
I guess including relevant quotes from others is wasted on you. Can you please add me to your ignore list as I think I'm writing well above your level and you're just getting upset and confused.
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I believe willful ignorance is a choice and a poor choice. I teach my children this. I chastise others when their willful ignorance is tantamount to bigotry. That's my opinion.
Have you ever met a single gay person who says its a choice? I've been gay for 37 years and haven't.
When did you decide to be heterosexual? Would you be equally satisfied performing fellatio on a man, but you simply choose to be with women?
Actually yes I have.
A close friend didn't put it in those exact words but he did tell me he wondered if perhaps he should have went the other way.
As for chastising others about their willful ignorance, you expose your own ignorance and bigotry. You are exactly the type social authoritarian which pushes me to oppose 'gay' legislation.
You assume your own infallibility and intrude upon others to impose your bias.
I believe if coerced or manipulated at an early age to engage in same-sex relations I probably would prefer that to which I was accustomed to.
Then I'll ask that you also stop trying to change the schools and not provide a forum in any form which promotes such alternative lifestyles. When I was in school we didn't need to have explained to us why Suzy has two mommies, why we shouldn't tease Jimmy for wanting to dress like a princess (becasue he would not have dared to do so), why some boys just like boys, why books that show two princes getting married are good to read in class, why books about a couple of qu**r penguins somehow teach valuable lessons, etc. There were no straight-gay-student-alliance clubs, we didn't take off to support gay pride parades on Main Street, and why the football coach just got married to some other guy and we should be happy for him. And there's no agenda to normalize such things in the impressionable minds of children? Yeah, right...
I find it quite sad that you really believe this is about "promoting the homosexual agenda". I see it as studying modern literature. If that also means improving understanding and minimizing hatred, that's an added bonus.
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I guess including relevant quotes from others is wasted on you. Can you please add me to your ignore list as I think I'm writing well above your level and you're just getting upset and confused.
Oh please, you are giving yourself way too much credit.
Actually yes I have.
A close friend didn't put it in those exact words but he did tell me he wondered if perhaps he should have went the other way.
As for chastising others about their willful ignorance, you expose your own ignorance and bigotry. You are exactly the type social authoritarian which pushes me to oppose 'gay' legislation.
You assume your own infallibility and intrude upon others to impose your bias.
I believe if coerced or manipulated at an early age to engage in same-sex relations I probably would prefer that to which I was accustomed to.
If the close friend didn't put it in those exact words, then it seems you are reading into his words what YOU want to read. You can't change your preference.
I think it's interesting that you take such a passive-aggressive approach. It's someone else that makes you oppose things, not your own choice to oppose those things. If you turned out to be gay, it would be someone else who coerced or manipulated you into those preferences. If your children turn out to be gay, someone else had to have turned them gay. Is that what bigotry is, just about assigning blame to someone else, a need to blame others? The more I think about it, the more that seems to be the case.
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