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Old 09-01-2011, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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My step father had a loong list of forbidden books. He about went nuts when he found me reading "To Hell and Back" by Audi Murphy. I wonder if all Murf's war movies were just personal PTSD therapy? After 'Nam I reread the book and was astounded at the accuracy. I am glad I never had to fight the Germans.

As far as exposing teens to books with sexual situations I think it is a good idea. Better they learn some of the down side from books than by actual experience. The upside they learn form each other.
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Old 09-01-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Sorry not everyone agrees with your narrow-minded views, but some of us can actually understand the need for covering this subject in teen collections... especially people like me, who actually work in the field & help these kids on a daily basis. Do you even have kids?
Wow! Just....wow. I have kids. And I don't need academias help raising them. The arrogance astounds me! Do you think...honestly...that you are somehow morally superior to so many parents out here? I, for one, don't need your "helping" my kids. Their mother and I are just fine sorting through moral and societal issues with them and resent the implication that some school teacher thinks themselves better or even equally qualified to approach such subjects as are.being discussed here.
I am tired of social agendas being tabled, using points of view I don't agree with, to my kids on MY dime!! No matter how you slice it that comes up smelling like a ten day dead cat in July.
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Old 09-01-2011, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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""School Reading List Featured Books on Lesbian Sex,Gay Orgy"
Yes, that's awful. All orgies in books for school children should be between heterosexuals only...and described in explicit detail, maybe even with some photos or, at least, drawings.
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Old 09-01-2011, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Now we are calling porn in a PUBLIC library or a school a novel? That's rich.... "Of war and peace" is a novel... not some sick written garbage by a pedophile.
Have you read the book?

No?

Well, I have.

It's not porn.

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I don't know what's more obscene, the trash books on the reading list, or the comments on this thread attempting to justify that books which depict pedophilia, sex orgies and drug use are o.k. for the consumption of middle school and high school children.
Except that the claim of pedophilia in the one book is false. It's not even ephebophilia or hebephilia. Please read the book before making false accusations as to the contents of book.

As for the "sex orgies and drug use being okay" - I'll find out the truth on that accusation as well when I read Tweak - which has already come in the mail.
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:06 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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My step father had a loong list of forbidden books. He about went nuts when he found me reading "To Hell and Back" by Audi Murphy. I wonder if all Murf's war movies were just personal PTSD therapy? After 'Nam I reread the book and was astounded at the accuracy. I am glad I never had to fight the Germans.

As far as exposing teens to books with sexual situations I think it is a good idea. Better they learn some of the down side from books than by actual experience. The upside they learn form each other.
Mmmmm...there we're no "forbidden " books in the house I grew up in. I inherited the library when I inherited the spread. It is quite extensive.
My family are avid readers, yet some of the material that schools are pushing today as ....enlightening ...raises me eyes a bit. I taught the realities of life and death, and how unconditional love bridges both, through Wilson Rawls Where the Red Fern Grows. Understanding that America is not the world with James Clavells Shogun. Manys the hour we have pondered Aesops tales and discussed those interesting morals.
Why is there such a profound need for our kids to understand homosexuallity and integrate it into daily life now? What purpose is being served by schools requiring reading on the subject? If that is not pushing an agenda, I don't know what is. Sorry folks, as a parent I feel I still have a CHOICE in how my kids are raised and how I present certain topics for discussion. Some areas are out of bounds for teachers and schools.
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Mmmmm...there we're no "forbidden " books in the house I grew up in. I inherited the library when I inherited the spread. It is quite extensive.
My family are avid readers, yet some of the material that schools are pushing today as ....enlightening ...raises me eyes a bit. I taught the realities of life and death, and how unconditional love bridges both, through Wilson Rawls Where the Red Fern Grows. Understanding that America is not the world with James Clavells Shogun. Manys the hour we have pondered Aesops tales and discussed those interesting morals.
Why is there such a profound need for our kids to understand homosexuallity and integrate it into daily life now? What purpose is being served by schools requiring reading on the subject? If that is not pushing an agenda, I don't know what is. Sorry folks, as a parent I feel I still have a CHOICE in how my kids are raised and how I present certain topics for discussion. Some areas are out of bounds for teachers and schools.
THis thread has proven that these books AREN'T pushing homosexuality into life, and that the books were part of 10th and 12th grade honors english class reading.

Which, these are high schoolers.

They already know everything there is to know about sex.
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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[quote=Phantasy Tokoro;20706285]THis thread has proven that these books AREN'T pushing homosexuality into life, and that the books were part of 10th and 12th grade honors english class reading.

Which, these are high schoolers.

They already know everything there is to know about sex. I hope you are not serious. "Know everything there is to know about sex"?? A high school kid?? Bwahhhahahahaha. Nawwww you gotta be kidding. Hell, crowding 5 decades of living ain't brought me even close to knowing all there is to know bout anything....especially human sexuallity and that ever elusive female mind. Telling high school kids that they know all there is to know about sex might just be kind of dangerous. Teen age minds do not mix well with certain things unless those things are handled very carefully. Its like making explosives. To much of the wrong thing and it goBOOM!!!!
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Why is there such a profound need for our kids to understand homosexuallity and integrate it into daily life now? What purpose is being served by schools requiring reading on the subject?
In the book Norwegian Wood, there is one scene that involves two females - the so-called "pedophile" scene (wrongly called that, of course). Beyond that, it is purely heterosexual.

Signed,
Somebody who actually read the book
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:33 PM
 
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In the book Norwegian Wood, there is one scene that involves two females - the so-called "pedophile" scene (wrongly called that, of course). Beyond that, it is purely heterosexual.

Signed,
Somebody who actually read the book
Thank you, to someone who actually READ the book.
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I hope you are not serious. "Know everything there is to know about sex"?? A high school kid??
I am.

High school kids typically know more about sex and contraception than adults.

Well, the previous generation anyways.

This generation is screwed, since we actually got proper sex education.

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Telling high school kids that they know all there is to know about sex might just be kind of dangerous.
No, what's dangerous is telling a teen "FOMG YOU DON'T HAVE SEX CUZ I SAID SO".

Make the topic less taboo, and the teen is less curious.

Signed, someone who was pre-20 6 years ago.
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