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Old 08-24-2011, 09:37 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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I don't think justifying one theory with another one is good science,
Me neither. Good science avails itself of the scientific method. If you understood this, you'd also understand the difference between a scientific theory and a theory that you thought up this morning. You might want to research this one.

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there are many variables! there are many reputable climatologist who think other wise, so no!! not every reputable climatologist think the earth is warming. lets get that straight!
No, there aren't many reputable climatologists who don't believe in climate change. Go ahead and find some-- Again, reputable ones... Not hacks hired by a right wing think tank or Exxon. (Hint: Try universities. Any climate change deniers there? Good luck!)

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now you calling me crazy. because I believe homosexuality is abnormal. how open minded can you be! I guess liberal are always with their minds open,they just like to close it when ever they want. its just like close minded people! no difference
I didn't call you crazy. I called you wrong. For the third time-- Homosexual behavior is considered normative behavior. There is a spectrum of sexual behavior, and homosexual behavior falls in the normal range. It takes place in humans. It takes place in animals.

Your just another person trying to justify your bigotry. I am not "close-minded" by not accepting your bigotry. Closed minded would mean I didn't consider your position. I did. You're wrong. You're probably a bigot, and, frankly, you're really not making your points in any cogent matter.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Me neither. Good science avails itself of the scientific method. If you understood this, you'd also understand the difference between a scientific theory and a theory that you thought up this morning. You might want to research this one.



No, there aren't many reputable climatologists who don't believe in climate change. Go ahead and find some-- Again, reputable ones... Not hacks hired by a right wing think tank or Exxon. (Hint: Try universities. Any climate change deniers there? Good luck!)



I didn't call you crazy. I called you wrong. For the third time-- Homosexual behavior is considered normative behavior. There is a spectrum of sexual behavior, and homosexual behavior falls in the normal range. It takes place in humans. It takes place in animals.

Your just another person trying to justify your bigotry. I am not "close-minded" by not accepting your bigotry. Closed minded would mean I didn't consider your position. I did. You're wrong. You're probably a bigot, and, frankly, you're really not making your points in any cogent matter.
An appeal to the scientific method and an appeal to authority in the same post -- bravo! Did you forget your schizophrenia medication this morning?
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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I am wondering: How come if I support a fiscally conservative candidate, it usually means I am supporting a candidate who does not support gay marriage, doesn't believe in evolution and/or global warming?

Why can't we have a fiscally conservative candidate who isn't using the fiscal conservatism as a proxy to attack boys kissing, public libraries and separation of church and state?

Please think about your answer... I am not interested in hearing talking points regurgitated.
It's not, vote Ron Paul.
He is a principled libertarian running under the GOP banner.

By principled libertarian I mean he does not believe government has the authority (power) to legislate morality - in either direction.

A free society by definition does not have morality dictated and enforced by the state.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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It's not, vote Ron Paul.
He is a principled libertarian running under the GOP banner.

By principled libertarian I mean he does not believe government has the authority (power) to legislate morality - in either direction.

A free society by definition does not have morality dictated and enforced by the state.
Again, whatever.

Ron Paul Supports DOMA | News | The Advocate
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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You would have a point if the disgust in question were directed at persons for being of a certain race. The disgust is directed at persons who engage in specific risky behaviors (gay sex).

http://lesleyduncan.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/SchallerDuncan2007.doc (broken link)
Ummm.....don't hetrosexuals also engage in risky behaviors? All of the diseases that can be spread by homosexual sex are also spread by hetrosexual sex.

And....hetrosexuals also add to society's ills when they create children that they don't want and don't/can't care for properly.....creating social deficits, criminals, and burdens on society.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:15 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Ummm.....don't hetrosexuals also engage in risky behaviors? All of the diseases that can be spread by homosexual sex are also spread by hetrosexual sex.

And....hetrosexuals also add to society's ills when they create children that they don't want and don't/can't care for properly.....creating social deficits, criminals, and burdens on society.
Sex between Lesbians is the lowest risk sexual behavior.

But since that apparently turns some bigots on, it's permissible.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:21 AM
 
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Oh please.... What's more important. People getting back to work and keeping their homes or gays that want to marry? Is the economy more important or is getting money from a death more important?

I know the answer that most selfish people will give. The money GIVEN to them from a death is more important than prosperity in the country.
Sam Brownback ad the KS Republicans seem to disagree with you. Many Repubs are mad because Brownback campaigned on the platform of Economics and jobs first before social issues but it is not working out that way.
Brownback wants money from the Feds to give to churches to promote marriage.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Adams and who?

Text Version of the Paris Peace Treaty


"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

The Declaration of Independence - TEXT



"As long as you stop trying to force your beliefs on other people, I don't give a darn."

Hmm, you'll have to show me this force my beliefs on others trick.

To date, all I've done is present facts as best I can, but if you know a way to force others to believe what I believe, I'd love to hear about that.

Is it like indoctrinating school kids with homosexual propaganda?


"But seeing as you believe your beliefs trump other people's beliefs, clearly you do not deserve tolerance."

You keep making moral judgments about a defense to disease that humans are born with. Try not projecting so much hostility onto others who are simply living out their biological imperatives.

"Recently, there has emerged a body of research exploring the implications of the behavioral immune system for human emotion, cognition and behavior. For instance, there is evidence suggesting that the emotion of disgust evolved to serve as an affective signal of parasite infection (Curtis et al., 2004; Oaten et al., 2009). This line of evidence not only has implications for psychologists’ understanding and measurement of disgust, but also may help to explain why feelings of disgust influence moral judgments and interpersonal relations (e.g. Tybur et al., 2009)."

Parasites, minds and cultures - Vol. 22, Part 11 ( November 2009)
"......force my beliefs on others....", that would be trying to legislate your religious dogmas.

As for your argument that the emotion of disgust is nature's way of protecting the species.......then you must also believe in nature's plan of "survival of the fittest".

So.....I guess people who are diseased and those born with disabilities, should not be allowed to survive or breed, as they will weaken the gene pool. It's nature's way.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Sex between Lesbians is the lowest risk sexual behavior.

But since that apparently turns some bigots on, it's permissible.[/quote]
Boy....isn't that the truth! LOL
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Ummm.....don't hetrosexuals also engage in risky behaviors? All of the diseases that can be spread by homosexual sex are also spread by hetrosexual sex.

And....hetrosexuals also add to society's ills when they create children that they don't want and don't/can't care for properly.....creating social deficits, criminals, and burdens on society.

I find anal intercourse to be disgusting regardless of who is engaging in it.

"All of the diseases that can be spread by homosexual sex are also spread by hetrosexual sex."

Mmm, in this country, not so much...

"Unprotected receptive anal sex does indeed carry the greatest risk for HIV transmission when considering the risk associated with various sexual activities. The CDC estimated-risk statistic that you quote is a population statistic. It basically helps in establishing relative risk. For instance, unprotected insertive penile-vaginal sex is riskier than receptive oral sex, but not as risky as insertive anal sex."

Unprotected receptive anal sex - Forum on Safe Sex and HIV Prevention


Creating children isn't a bad thing.

That's how we all got here.
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