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Old 08-25-2011, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The word "scum" defintely applies to many of the reps, but not Sanders.

Which GOP rep conducted a real filibuster? Sanders is not on the take and has exposed much corruption. Your thinking is skewed and typical.
What are you hiding behind? You talk about Sanders and then talk about Republican representatives filibustering. Do you not know that only Senators can filibuster or did you just screw up a bit.

One more question. How do we maintain Social Security with the failure to reinstall the paying rate to 6.2% where it had been for years? I bet that Bernie agrees with keeping it at 4.2% or that the Republicans are trying to raise taxes if they try to put it back.

Can you explain what year it was that SS had its first year in the red? Could it have been 2011, the year that the Dems tried so hard to buy votes by cutting that rate? Somehow I believe it was.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Germny would welcome Sanders just as many Americans would welcome the German model. They are doing way better for their average citizen than the USA is. In fact, they put us to shame.


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I do so love to listen to the Young Turks for what they are. They are more scummy to me than left leaning supposedly independent Senators.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Bernie is one big reason we have the best state Congressional delegation.

And he gets a lot of votes even in Republican parts of the state.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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How about getting congress to keep their greedy little fingers out of SS and eliminate the fakers who're receiving SS money they don't deserve.
The only way Social Security can be saved is to take the hands of the Congress out of it along with raising the payroll bit back to 6.2% as soon as possible. They raided the fund for over 50 years and then blew it all to hell last year with the cut of money for individuals.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Protection for social security is important----reform is indeed necessary and will happen.

My parents, grandparents, and many other relatives, who were not high rollers, were grateful for the assistance and helping hand that ss afforded them. They were not there to collect handouts and government cookies, but were grateful that there was a support system for seniors who struggled all their lives to provide for their families.

I know that changes in entitlements are forthcoming----and so be it. Creative and constructive changes need to be made to reduce deficits and insure that we have stability.

That being said, while understanding the need for entitlement adjustments, I dont appreciate comparing ss to a ponzi scheme and hinting as scuttling the system.

My father,now 85, gets his $1000 a month and it allows him to live a very modest existence. Please dont tell him social security is a ponzi scheme.
Lets start with the fact that SS is not an entitlement. I say that because I have been paying into it for over 65 years. Now people who receive welfare and Medicaid are getting entitlements since they paid nothing into the funds they get the money from. Even Medicare isn't an entitlement since everybody gets to pay into it. They withhold about $100 from my SS check each month for Medicare. That is a whole lot more, percentage wise than any youngr people pay.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Protection for social security is important----reform is indeed necessary and will happen.

My parents, grandparents, and many other relatives, who were not high rollers, were grateful for the assistance and helping hand that ss afforded them. They were not there to collect handouts and government cookies, but were grateful that there was a support system for seniors who struggled all their lives to provide for their families.

I know that changes in entitlements are forthcoming----and so be it. Creative and constructive changes need to be made to reduce deficits and insure that we have stability.

That being said, while understanding the need for entitlement adjustments, I dont appreciate comparing ss to a ponzi scheme and hinting as scuttling the system.

My father,now 85, gets his $1000 a month and it allows him to live a very modest existence. Please dont tell him social security is a ponzi scheme.
Lets start with the fact that SS is not an entitlement. I say that because I have been paying into it for over 65 years. Now people who receive welfare and Medicaid are getting entitlements since they paid nothing into the funds they get the money from. Even Medicare isn't an entitlement since everybody gets to pay into it. They withhold about $100 from my SS check each month for Medicare. That is a whole lot more, percentage wise, than any younger people pay.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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SS needs cut but not in benefits. It needs to have its qualification age risen for Baby Boomers and the benefits only cut for the rich. Rich people shouldnt get more out of SS than they pey into it. Do this and SS will last.
How in hell can SS last when the Dems cut the amount paid in in an effort to buy some votes. If we had been at 6.2% the past year the red color wouldn't have hit us this year. We have to stop letting politicians 'buy' votes with those cuts. It is so obvious that it was done for that reason since the employers got to pay 6.2% like they had for years.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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One more question. How do we maintain Social Security with the failure to reinstall the paying rate to 6.2% where it had been for years? I bet that Bernie agrees with keeping it at 4.2% or that the Republicans are trying to raise taxes if they try to put it back.
That is a solid point that little tax cut added up to about 140 billion that was not put into the trust fund. And was after the fact that our idiot savant leaders had to know we were running in deficit. So we know the 2T is not in the fund, years and years of deficit, and SS is taking in less money. But somehow we still have people claim that SS is solvent
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:59 PM
 
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That is a solid point that little tax cut added up to about 140 billion that was not put into the trust fund. And was after the fact that our idiot savant leaders had to know we were running in deficit. So we know the 2T is not in the fund, years and years of deficit, and SS is taking in less money. But somehow we still have people claim that SS is solvent
I get my check every month...


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Old 08-25-2011, 09:10 PM
 
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Sanders is a fool. SS as constructed is unsustainable. He's either stupidly unaware of that fact or maliciously lying about it.

Either way, the old crackpot represents the worst the left has to offer.
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