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Old 08-27-2011, 02:14 PM
 
Location: North America
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Conservatives and especially libertarians advocate government staying out of our lives.

Should hurricane Irene change that stance? Should elected conservative politicians slip just this once and advocate a government solution to evacuations, flooding, power outages, wind damage, shelters, etc?


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Old 08-27-2011, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Thats true. If you complain about government handouts and government assistance, then you should be against FEMA.

Its what makes Ron Paul one of the least hypocritical members of congress.
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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I see it as people want as little government interference as possible in their day-to-day lives. Organizing efforts to help people during natural disasters is simply common sense.
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:18 PM
 
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I am against FEMA 100%. Each state has its own emergency management agency. Mine is called PEMA or Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency.
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I see it as people want as little government interference as possible in their day-to-day lives. Organizing efforts to help people during natural disasters is simply common sense.
But liberals find common sense offensive. Maybe it's because they don't understand it.
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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But liberals find common sense offensive. Maybe it's because they don't understand it.
Its not common sense, I've heard people complaining about having to clean up New Orleans after Katrina, I heard a lot of it.

No where in the constitution does it say that you have the right to feel safe, or that the federal government is obligated to help you in times of a natural disaster.

I guarantee you someone will say that they are for assistance during a hurricane like this, then next week will scream about the constitutionality of healthcare.

You are either all in, or you have to quit complaining about the abuse of the constitution. I had this discussion with a friend the other day. Most folks don't have a problem with the federal government over stepping its bounds of power, or that many things they do are indeed unconstitutional based on the words alone. Most folks only want the federal government to do it when it benefits them.

Its not a matter of the constitution, its a matter of you not liking a specific program. Just say you have a problem with that program, but drop the constitutional argument.
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:34 PM
 
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FEMA is another Government run agency/program out of control and mostly worthless. Get the **** out of the way and let the Red Cross/NGOs and the military handle disasters.
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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I'm rather conflicted about this....on one hand, FEMA is a train wreck, but on the other hand, I sure was glad to get the water and ice they were handing out after the 4 hurricanes that went through Central Florida in the course of 6 weeks in 04.
We had no electricity for a week after each hurricane, so had no water.
God, that sucked!
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I'm rather conflicted about this....on one hand, FEMA is a train wreck, but on the other hand, I sure was glad to get the water and ice they were handing out after the 4 hurricanes that went through Central Florida in the course of 6 weeks in 04.
We had no electricity for a week after each hurricane, so had no water.
God, that sucked!
FEMA didn't do that. The governor stocked up and was ready.

Local preparation is what got Florida through most of that, not the Federal government.
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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FEMA didn't do that. The governor stocked up and was ready.

Local preparation is what got Florida through most of that, not the Federal government.
It was FEMA out here in the Forest, we were pretty much ignored by our own county and state government here.
The county and state were in the more urban areas, but not out here in the sticks.
I remember asking where the h2o and ice was coming from.
And even then, it was 3 days before anyone got out here.
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