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Old 08-29-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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House Speaker John Boehner’s budget proposal will change the face of the American social and political landscape ......snip.....
dude

federal SPENDING has increased from 2.0 trillion in 2001 to 3.8 trillion in 2011....an 85% increase in spending in 10 years...shirley we can cut things back
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Old 08-29-2011, 02:49 PM
 
Location: around racist white people
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Wow, what an awful idea, forcing people to assume responsibility for their own lives and support. Why, the next thing you know, these poor folks will actually have to go out and find a job. Imagine that, working for a living, what a novel concept.
Considering the fact that my future is in the hand of some old white dude that probably has a bad opinion of minorities in general its clear to see where the revolt is coming from bud.....

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Old 08-29-2011, 03:00 PM
 
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End Obamacare and hiring will commence.
I agree. New jobs seems foremost in getting this thing rolling again. The day the healthcare bill passed, the small amount of momentum in the economy could be felt as it slowed to a standstill.
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:09 PM
 
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House Speaker John Boehner’s budget proposal will change the face of the American social and political landscape - increasing poverty, putting hundreds of thousands of low income Americans out on the streets, denying medical assistance to the low income disabled and elderly, and eviscerating the SNAP or “food stamps” program. Boehner would have American Society regress to the era of the 30's as described by John Steinbeck in his great and tragic novel, “The Grapes of Wrath.”

Boehner’s plan can properly be called “class warfare,” and a significant consequence of this class warfare can't help but translate to racial warfare, as well.

As we all know by now, Boehner’s manifesto rejects all tax increases. A House GOP aide talking about the Republican members of the deficit reduction committee (“the gang of six”) said bluntly: “We appoint members to the committee, and we’re not appointing any Republicans who will vote for tax hikes.”

Instead, a $1.8 trillion reduction will come from “entitlement reforms and savings.”

This savings will be acquired over the next ten years by one of three possible methods – all equally draconian:

•Behind Door Number One: Cut Social Security and Medicare benefits heavily for current retirees - a form of political suicide that even extremists like Boehner will not actually contemplate.

•Door Number Two: Repeal the Affordable Care Act’s coverage expansions while retaining its strictures that cut Medicare payments and raise tax revenues. However, Republicans will seek to repeal many of those measures as well. (Yes, I am also confused by this last).

•Door Number Three: Completely obliterate the social safety net for low-income children, parents, senior citizens, and people with disabilities.

Absent any compromise on tax increases, there are simply no other ways to obtain $1.8 trillion in entitlement cuts within the next decade.

In addition (yes, it gets worse), House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s own plan would slash Medicaid and health reform by $2.2 trillion. Ryan would also cut $127 billion from SNAP and reduce Pell Grants and other student financial assistance by $126 billion. Looking for an education to get you a better job or pull you solidly into the middle class? Keep looking. And remember what happened to Oliver Twist when he asked for more soup.

Previously, core assistance programs for the poor were exempted from across the board cuts by the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings law, enacted in 1985. Now, the “Cut, Cap, and Balance” bill will remove these exemptions. With an election coming up, which door are the Republicans likely to choose? Don’t all answer at once. The entitlement cuts will most heavily target the programs created for people of lesser means and, yes Virginia, less political power.

Meanwhile, the many lucrative tax breaks that benefit the wealthy and the powerful corporations have been pledged protection by Boehner who certainly shows great sympathy for the robber baron class if no one else.

Extra credit question: Who said, "This person suffering from hereditary defects costs the community $60,000 during his lifetime. Fellow Countryman, that is your money, too."

a) Charles Darwin
b) Sarah Palin
c) Office of Social Policy’s “A New People”
(hint: “C” was translated from the German)

All of the above is written in my own words. My major source for the information came from the non partisan outfit, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities: http://www.cbpp.org/files/7-25-11bud-stmt.pdf.

P*ss poor attitude copped from Bill the Cat (Remember him? Bloom County? Never mind)

PS This is NOT a diatribe directed at any member of CD (unless John Boehner became a member when I wasn’t looking), but if thinking so helps you get through another night scrounging through the dumpsters, feel free.
Yup, because Obama's Plan 5.0 will having us back on easy street.
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Meanwhile, the many lucrative tax breaks that benefit the wealthy and the powerful corporations have been pledged protection by Boehner who certainly shows great sympathy for the robber baron class if no one else.

And what are those?
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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House Speaker John Boehner’s budget proposal will change the face of the American social and political landscape ....

As we all know by now, Boehner’s manifesto rejects all tax increases.
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Instead, a $1.8 trillion reduction will come from “entitlement reforms and savings.”

That would be a good start. 1.8 trillion over 10 years is a drop in the bucket. That's less than a 5% cut in spending and I doubt that any cuts will actually be realized.

Government spending has gone from 7% of GDP to almost 45% in the last century. The cuts Boehner is pushing are way too small.

Instead of cutting 1.8 trillion over ten years, we should be talking about cutting 15 trillion or more.

There is no reason to increase taxes on anybody.
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:41 PM
 
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The coming social disaster as best I can figure
America has had an ongoing social disaster festering for many years but we have been able to camouflage it with dollar bills. The real disaster will come when most accept the fact that the dollar is like an antibiotic that has expired.
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:54 PM
 
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I have a big feeling you are living on the government's dole, hence this post. I am not saying I agree with these cuts, on the other hand ,none of these cuts if they happened would affect me so there would not be an outrage on my part if they happened.
It is always assumed that any outrage over these attitudes taken by the right to protect tax cuts and subsidies and tax breaks for corporations while slashing programs that help those in need, must be felt by those who are 'on the dole', it couldnt just be someone feeling compassion for those less fortunate than themselves could it? You say that none of these cuts, if they happened, would affect you, so you have no outrage on your part. You will see what will happen if the country heads down this road too far, and you will see how it will come to affect you, even if you think it won't. No man is an island, and the classes of this country are not so far separated, or independent from each other economically as one might think.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:43 PM
 
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The Republicans don't care that there are no freaking jobs. Political power is no longer defined by the amount of support from the people, rather it is created by huge contributions from wealthy International Corporations. In the last major election, the Dems copped to this and were pigging out at the trough with everyone else.

When every last American is unemployed, both current and FORMER members of Congress will still be receiving a stipend of around $130,000/yr or so for LIFE. This includes excellent free medical coverage. The pols will shed crocodile tears all the way to the Cayman Islands.

And you missed the part where the Republicans are indeed going to cut Pell Grants and other forms of Federal student aid by $126 million. Why educate people for jobs that don't exist? And further, remember that knowledge is power. Some of the most laughable posts around here come from people who obviously never read an entire book in their life, although they're good at mouthing the slogans their handlers want them to recite.

If people understood what was going on, you're right - there would be riots in the streets. However, I wouldn't worry about getting tear gassed any time soon.
And you believe the democrats do????

Foolish of you when it was Clinton who signed NAFTA and made all those trips to China (with Hillary) negotiating away our jobs.

And Ted Kennedy couldn't offer enough promises to illegals pouring over the border to bring down wages to rock bottom and put Americans out of work. Hint - very few illegals are doing any kind of farm work.

Obama right now is expanding NAFTA, trying to destroy the American truck driver by bringing in cheap substandard trucks from Mexico to take over our highways, and not only that, he's using taxpayer dollars to help those trucks meet minimal standards. Is Obama helping the American truckdriver in any way? Hell no.

And Obama has just bypassed Congress to create a whole new work visa program but it's not for Americans. It's for foreigners who would come here illegally only. Of course democrat Pelosi is fully behind more NAFTA and more illegal immigration.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:49 PM
 
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Liberals don't seem to have noticed that the USA credit rating dropped. I realize Obama insisted after S&P dropped our rating, that we are still AAA but that's really not the case.

It comes down to either we control spending and EVERYONE including the welfare types tighten their belts or spending will be controlled for us, it will be out of our hands. The more we spend, the less credit worthy we become and it's the entitlement programs like food stamps and Medicaid that are growing at wild uncontrolled rates.
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