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The problem is that lack of consistency with their Policies. No Car cam until after the the subject is in the patrol car. Females officers only with with female detainees that are strip searched. There is no need to be fair with this Sheriffs office. Had they followed all their own policies then they would have a case. Also where is the video that the one jail employee is caught on tape making with her own camera on the tax payer dime.
Well I wasn't defending this particular department, merely pointing out that it is standard policy to strip suicidal subjects and isolate them.
Oh gee, why do I get the feeling there is *a lot* more to this story than what we're getting from the news anchors? There is no way that anyone can form an intelligent opinion based upon the information available.
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Yes but in school it is not the person doing the picking on that gets in trouble it is the person being picked on that gets in trouble.
The thread title is a bit misleading, it wasn't police, it was deputies in a jail. Strip searches aren't exactly uncommon there.
But hey, I wonder how many people complaining about it will also complain when the sheriff has to hire "less qualified" women to ensure adequate staffing in jail to deal with female inmates who need to be strip searched.
Well to be fair that is policy. That's pretty standard for any law enforcement/correctional institute. Anyone who claims to be suicidal, or determined to be suicidal is stripped of all clothing and held in a suicide prevention cell.
I get what you're saying, but it didn't sound at all to me like the reason for the call was because she was suicidal. She's the one who called 911 for police protection from her cousin who assaulted her or something like that. The cops screwed up and thought she was the person called about. There were no claims about suicide (from what I can tell) until after there was a lawsuit and video evidence. The cops' story reeks of cover-up.
Well I wasn't defending this particular department, merely pointing out that it is standard policy to strip suicidal subjects and isolate them.
Ok. "Well to be fair" in your post gave it an air of support for the Officers actions.
I would like to say these LEO's and their department acted appropriately. Just too many bone headed mistakes and/or criminal destruction of evidence to be fair.
Ok. "Well to be fair" in your post gave it an air of support for the Officers actions.
I would like to say these LEO's and their department acted appropriately. Just too many bone headed mistakes and/or criminal destruction of evidence to be fair.
I can neither condemn nor support the officers actions until I knew the full story. Trust me, I work in corrections, there are a lot of tough calls that leave you open to second guessing. Again, I'm not supporting these officers because it sounds likely that they operated outside of agency policy.
I get what you're saying, but it didn't sound at all to me like the reason for the call was because she was suicidal. She's the one who called 911 for police protection from her cousin who assaulted her or something like that. The cops screwed up and thought she was the person called about. There were no claims about suicide (from what I can tell) until after there was a lawsuit and video evidence. The cops' story reeks of cover-up.
It's possible, even probable. I'd need to read the witness statements, and view the video tapes, learn the full story before I pass any judgement.
Wouldn't it be better to call mental health pros if you think someone is suicidal rather than humiliate and tramatize them? If that's really "procedure" then we have a problem.
Wouldn't it be better to call mental health pros if you think someone is suicidal rather than humiliate and tramatize them? If that's really "procedure" then we have a problem.
Boy ain't that the truth, if they were following procedures, or agency policies, there is a problem.
I might be wrong, but i have heard in the past that any suicidal inmate must be strip search, in case they have something they can use to injur or kill themself. Not sure if this is still the case, so do not get on me if i am wrong, but i have heard this before.
Wouldn't it be better to call mental health pros if you think someone is suicidal rather than humiliate and tramatize them? If that's really "procedure" then we have a problem.
It's a jail cell. Anyway, not sure about other states, but here in California, there's a dearth of mental health services out there. It's not entirely uncommon that the local mental health services will refuse to deal with a person, and the only real option the police have is to toss'm in jail or release them.
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