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Old 09-12-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: France, that's in Europe
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So now it is 95%? You are simply pulling these numbers out of the air and have no clue as to what percentage of scientists who actually deal with climate support or contend the concept of global warming. No clue. Yet you are as confident with your "98%" number as you are with the belief that man made CO2 is causing global warming! Here is where you got your false 98% number.

http://icecap.us/


I notice that in the link that you gave they don't actually link to the survey. Obviously you looked for it and analysed it yourself didn't you? Please link to it for us.

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Old 09-12-2011, 02:14 PM
 
Location: France, that's in Europe
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PS- Your 98% of "scientists" supporting the contention of man-made global warming is pure hogwash. Do you think all these PhDs are completely full of crap?
List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ROFL: why did you just shoot your own foot?

Look at the first graphic on your link;

97–98% of the most published climate researchers think humans are causing global warming.[1] Another study found 97.4% of specialists and just under 90% of active scientists think significant man made global warming is occurring.[2]

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Old 09-12-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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Has anyone here heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect? Google it and understand what makes this place so entertaining. I haven't seen so many examples in one place for a long time.
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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Seriously, do you think that's how it works in real life? You make an accusation and everybody just accepts what you say?
What planet have you been living on?

Again I say.....
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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Has anyone here heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect? Google it and understand what makes this place so entertaining. I haven't seen so many examples in one place for a long time.
I'm willing to bet you don't understand how ironically true your statement is.

You've earned yet another

Thanks for the laughs!
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Priceless. So no background in science, no publications, no faculty appointments, no scientific presentations and you are an "expert" in science and evaluating the scientific literature.
I keep hearing of your "credentials" but have seen nothing coming from you that discredits the overwhelming majority of climate researchers who:

A) Understand basic science

B) Recognize mankind's contribution to the statistically proven fact the earth is rapidly warming.

Instead I am given a link to Senator Inhofe's blog, an infamous climate change denier who was in charge under Bush of being their point man on denying climate change research. Watching the GOP debate I hear of how it will "cripple the economy" to have any "regulations" on pollution by people with:

1) Financial motive to lie
2) No understanding of science

As an avowed hater of all things liberal, is it any wonder you line up with these people politically, and that your motivations are more political than scientific?


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So now it is 95%? You are simply pulling these numbers out of the air and have no clue as to what percentage of scientists who actually deal with climate support or contend the concept of global warming. No clue. Yet you are as confident with your "98%" number as you are with the belief that man made CO2 is causing global warming! Here is where you got your false 98% number.
ICECAP

This is how we got a community organizer in the White House.
Would you be happier if I said "overwhelming majority" instead of using a percentage that I cannot accurately verify?

You see, there is a reason that this population is an overwhelming majority, it is because science is largely provable, and those studying it are scientists, using scientific research and analysis that all leads to the same conclusion that the earth is getting warmer as a result of mankind's use of fossil fuels. Denialists quibble that there is nothing "absolute", and they are correct, but how does that dispute the voluminous data that is both peer reviewed and largely in agreement based on scientific analysis? Well, it must be a conspiracy then!


So it really does not matter if your population reaches 10%, and that hacks, posers, disgruntled former climate researchers, even genuine true believers stand in stark contrast to those using scientific research to arrive at a conclusion that is reinforced through the use of basic science and repeated observations backed by climate data from thousands of years prior. You and others dispute this research because they cannot predict the future with absolute certainty? Such doubt is certainly not motivated by science!

Again, you may have written an in depth examination of toenail fungus using a variety of scientific methods and been lauded by your peers, but when it comes to climate change research you are no better qualified than I am. And I agree with the overwhelming majority of researchers because I believe in science, while you believe in paranoid fantasies of cover-ups and scandals peddled by people like Sen. Inhofe and Rush Limbaugh.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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I'm willing to bet you don't understand how ironically true your statement is.

You've earned yet another

Thanks for the laughs!
Looks like this widdle Ewic is a widdle bit scared to tell us what his accusations are? Maybe because they're baseless?
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:10 PM
 
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Looks like this widdle Ewic is a widdle bit scared to tell us what his accusations are? Maybe because they're baseless?
Sorry, not biting today. You defeated yourself and I see no reason to assist you in redemption.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:19 PM
 
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Would you be happier if I said "overwhelming majority" instead of using a percentage that I cannot accurately verify?

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Perhaps you were writing the above post when mine appeared. Hawkeye inadvertently linked to the analyses that support the percentage via his Wiki link: 97+% is verifiable. Expert credibility in climate change
http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf

If anyone can find a free link to Kendall Zimmerman, M. (2008), The consensus on the consensus:etc. could they post it please?

Strange that someone so liberal would choose a nickname based on a hippy type, doctor character, internationally famous for drinking and goofing around.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:21 PM
 
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Strange that someone so liberal would choose a nickname based on a hippy type, doctor character, internationally famous for drinking and goofing around.
He is probably from Iowa, as their team name is the "Iowa Hawkeye's"

P.S. I think you meant "conservative"

P.S.S. - Alan Alda, who played "Hawkeye", is sometimes seen on public television, exploring the latest development in ......science!
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