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Old 09-07-2011, 11:25 AM
 
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Why do people always make this leap? A fetus is not a kid. A fetus just has the potential to become a kid.

How about this.....I have a car ......it is just a huge pile of parts on my garage floor.....but a car none the less by your definition. Can I drive it?

thank you annie, another great question that never gets answered.
a fetus is also not a toddler, older child. senior or irritating spouse one may want to strangle
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:28 AM
 
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Did you know "fetus" is the Latin word meaning baby? Just saying.
you have seen a picture of both a fetus and a baby. you do understand a fetus and a baby are at two completely different stages of development? one is a fully able individual, the other undeveloped and unable to become fully developed with out a host?
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Did you know "fetus" is the Latin word meaning baby? Just saying.
It also means "hatching of young"........does that make me a chicken? LOL
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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Why do people always make this leap? A fetus is not a kid. A fetus just has the potential to become a kid.

How about this.....I have a car ......it is just a huge pile of parts on my garage floor.....but a car none the less by your definition. Can I drive it?

under current law, it would be legal to abort a child up to the day before it's born. there has to be a cut off point where abortions cannot be performed
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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under current law, it would be legal to abort a child up to the day before it's born. there has to be a cut off point where abortions cannot be performed
There are SEVERE restrictions on late stage abortions.....to just ban them outright would put some women's lives at severe risk.

You obviously have very little knowledge about the intricasies of abortion and women's health.
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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under current law, it would be legal to abort a child up to the day before it's born. there has to be a cut off point where abortions cannot be performed
in theory yes, now in reality try to get an abortion the day before you deliver. it ain't gonna happen. all late term abortion happens for severe medical reasons only of that of mother or baby.

continuing to spread the lie or believe late term abortion is common place or happens for fun is an anti choicers scare tactic you fall for it hook line and sinker
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:15 PM
 
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Did you know "fetus" is the Latin word meaning baby? Just saying.
OH WELL HOLY CRAP AND DAMN THAT JUST PROVES ......









what?



NOTHING.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:51 PM
 
Location: PA
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you still did not answer the question on how to control women who may be pregnant and how to cut them out of the heard and make them bear their fetus
I'm not interesting in controlling women who are pregnant let them do what they want. Government has no function in this period, no funding, not a function of government. Sure have individual freedom's and make the choice. Legalized murder is what you want. If you don't want to go to jail maybe another solution for the baby and pregancy can be addressed. Would a healthy completetion of term be an option or is the only option death. The justice system says murder and if you kill a women who is pregent notice they you get charged with the death of the baby as well. Freaking cars and dogs have more rights then babys in wombs I just find that interesting.
Life begins at conception, just to answer your question. Willingly killing something in your body and assistance via government is not it's function. While we are at it how is it the father has no say. You might see fathers ask women to carry to term and fathers take the baby and raise the child the mother can go live her life. Then again in this society fathers have no say in the abortion process and somehow we can fund it thru government where are his rights to the baby and the fetus.
If you going to tell me women they can do what they want with their bodies and their womb stop saying doctors to go into your womb and do something for you. Its interesting in school sex ed classes they can discuss sex yet dont truly educate on abortions. They show the birth videos, show the abortions becuase we have to defend the caregiving doctors and see what happens to the baby. They DO CUT UP, how the blood, the body parts, and heart beating. Before Abortion procedures what would women do? Answer that question? This business that life and decisions are based on poverty is selfish reasoning as a promotion of abortion. All the more reason the government should not be involved and people with "economic issues" need to get their tubes tied or find other medical solutions until they are ready to have KIDS. Hmmmm? Since women think control is about owning their body and deciding raise the baby or not you can decide to do the abortion yourselves. After all if its against the law that is what they did before.
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:27 PM
 
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I'm not interesting in controlling women who are pregnant let them do what they want. Government has no function in this period, no funding, not a function of government. Sure have individual freedom's and make the choice. Legalized murder is what you want. If you don't want to go to jail maybe another solution for the baby and pregancy can be addressed. Would a healthy completetion of term be an option or is the only option death. The justice system says murder and if you kill a women who is pregent notice they you get charged with the death of the baby as well. Freaking cars and dogs have more rights then babys in wombs I just find that interesting.
Life begins at conception, just to answer your question. Willingly killing something in your body and assistance via government is not it's function. While we are at it how is it the father has no say. You might see fathers ask women to carry to term and fathers take the baby and raise the child the mother can go live her life. Then again in this society fathers have no say in the abortion process and somehow we can fund it thru government where are his rights to the baby and the fetus.
If you going to tell me women they can do what they want with their bodies and their womb stop saying doctors to go into your womb and do something for you. Its interesting in school sex ed classes they can discuss sex yet dont truly educate on abortions. They show the birth videos, show the abortions becuase we have to defend the caregiving doctors and see what happens to the baby. They DO CUT UP, how the blood, the body parts, and heart beating. Before Abortion procedures what would women do? Answer that question? This business that life and decisions are based on poverty is selfish reasoning as a promotion of abortion. All the more reason the government should not be involved and people with "economic issues" need to get their tubes tied or find other medical solutions until they are ready to have KIDS. Hmmmm? Since women think control is about owning their body and deciding raise the baby or not you can decide to do the abortion yourselves. After all if its against the law that is what they did before.

restricting a woman to routine health care options IS trying to control women. wanting them to complete a pregnancy and give birth against her wishes for her self IS controlling women

the "other" solution adoption, again why should women be forced to brood other people's kids? that IS control

women make a choice based on their own life and value not yours. we can debate all day when life begins, but until the fetus is viable it really isn't a life that can live outside the womb. rights begin at birth.

a woman can do what they want, you think they shouldn't have medical care? men do what they want all the time and people don't wish them without medical care

you need to educate yourself on the different methods of abortion your descriptions are not accurate. before abortion was legal woman went to back alley abortionist and many died. some used coat hangers at home to abort, many died as well. are you ok that women die? or is that number acceptable?

your taxes now don't pay for abortion. men opt out of parenthood all the time. should they be able to? that is another thread all together. much like forcing a man to be a parent the same could be said for making a woman go through a pregnancy she doesn't want. you understand this from a male perspective but not a female's?
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Old 09-07-2011, 05:26 PM
 
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I'm not interesting in controlling women who are pregnant let them do what they want. Government has no function in this period, no funding, not a function of government. Sure have individual freedom's and make the choice. Legalized murder is what you want. If you don't want to go to jail maybe another solution for the baby and pregancy can be addressed. Would a healthy completetion of term be an option or is the only option death. The justice system says murder and if you kill a women who is pregent notice they you get charged with the death of the baby as well. Freaking cars and dogs have more rights then babys in wombs I just find that interesting.
Life begins at conception, just to answer your question. Willingly killing something in your body and assistance via government is not it's function. While we are at it how is it the father has no say. You might see fathers ask women to carry to term and fathers take the baby and raise the child the mother can go live her life. Then again in this society fathers have no say in the abortion process and somehow we can fund it thru government where are his rights to the baby and the fetus.
If you going to tell me women they can do what they want with their bodies and their womb stop saying doctors to go into your womb and do something for you. Its interesting in school sex ed classes they can discuss sex yet dont truly educate on abortions. They show the birth videos, show the abortions becuase we have to defend the caregiving doctors and see what happens to the baby. They DO CUT UP, how the blood, the body parts, and heart beating. Before Abortion procedures what would women do? Answer that question? This business that life and decisions are based on poverty is selfish reasoning as a promotion of abortion. All the more reason the government should not be involved and people with "economic issues" need to get their tubes tied or find other medical solutions until they are ready to have KIDS. Hmmmm? Since women think control is about owning their body and deciding raise the baby or not you can decide to do the abortion yourselves. After all if its against the law that is what they did before.
"""If you going to tell me women they can do what they want with their bodies and their womb stop saying doctors to go into your womb and do something for you."""


WHA....????

Was that something like a sentence?

Did you mean something by that?????
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