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Old 09-01-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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>There are a lack of transitional fossils

Why do people still believe this idiocy?

Do they not do actual research before pulling claims out of their rear end?

>Evolution is not fact

SOMEONE didn't pass third grade science.

 
Old 09-01-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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This has nothing to do with evolution.

Also, I recall 1986 quite well, and seriously - you think THAT was a cultural high point?

Sheesh.
In my lifetime, yes (born 1977)

I would say that years before my life (the 60's for example) were better.

The mid 80's sure beat the heck out of today though
 
Old 09-01-2011, 11:54 AM
 
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In my lifetime, yes (born 1977)

I would say that years before my life (the 60's for example) were better.

The mid 80's sure beat the heck out of today though
That's just nostalgia though. I was born in 1979 and while I look back longingly at Ferris Bueller's Day Off as a cinematic classic, there were plenty of people in 1986 griping about how the culture of the 1980s was complete crap and everything including music, film, clothes, and art was better 20 years ago in the 60s(or even earlier). Every generation does that.

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Old 09-01-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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In my lifetime, yes (born 1977)

I would say that years before my life (the 60's for example) were better.

The mid 80's sure beat the heck out of today though
Now see, this is how subjective this is. I would have voted for 1977, and I was born in 1967.

Now I find myself sentimental about the 70's, when things were simpler and not so complicated. When kids had treehouses.

Then I remember my dad saying the same thing about the 50's and I laugh.
 
Old 09-01-2011, 12:11 PM
 
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I still can't believe Roy is using Ann Coulter's opinion as evidence.
 
Old 09-01-2011, 12:15 PM
 
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>There are a lack of transitional fossils

Why do people still believe this idiocy?

Do they not do actual research before pulling claims out of their rear end?

>Evolution is not fact

SOMEONE didn't pass third grade science.
I find it sad that you have bought into the fairy tale.
 
Old 09-01-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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pot...kettle

There is all sorts of evidence to support creationism. And all sorts of holes in the theory of evolution. I believe in time evolution will be seen as a great hoax. It'll go the way of the flat-earthers.
Wasn't calling anyone anything, pot, kettle or otherwise.

I should have been more specific - evidence that is able to withstand scientific scrutiny, i.e., that has a premise that can either be supported or not supported by data. When and if the theory of evolution is replaced, it will be replaced by something that can better account for the data.

You are more than welcome to your belief.
 
Old 09-01-2011, 12:33 PM
 
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Wasn't calling anyone anything, pot, kettle or otherwise.

I should have been more specific - evidence that is able to withstand scientific scrutiny, i.e., that has a premise that can either be supported or not supported by data. When and if the theory of evolution is replaced, it will be replaced by something that can better account for the data.

You are more than welcome to your belief.
I can logically prove that the universe was created. The best you've got for evolution is some circumstantial evidence--and massive holes in that.

I'm sorry...I just don't have that kind of faith.
 
Old 09-01-2011, 12:35 PM
 
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If just one transition fossil could be showed to us I would have a stronger belief in evolution as a truth and not just a theory. Coulter was so right on about nobody finding one of those things.
They have found plenty of fossils showing evolution from say a fish to a land living animal look up Tiktaalik- which shows evolving adaptations in a fish to land life such as the evolution of fins into legs and the breathing of air instead of taking the oxygen fro mthe water through gills- I dont know if creationist believers understand how rare it is to have fossils form in the first place, and the odds that someone will actually come across these fossils is pretty steep-creationists seem to want a series of fossils that show every step of evolution in a specific line of animal- I think there are enough fossils that show the development of bird skeletal traits in therapod dinosaurs to show that birds evolved from dinosaurs or from a common early source-creationists arguments are like the playground arguing technique-if I say the sky is blue you say how can you prove it is?
 
Old 09-01-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I can logically prove that the universe was created. The best you've got for evolution is some circumstantial evidence--and massive holes in that.

I'm sorry...I just don't have that kind of faith.
I believe you and I have had this discussion before. I don't think the theory of evolution accounts for everything in the universe....mainly because it doesn't, nor was it meant to. I'm reasonably sure that if what you're using for evidence is creationism, you can't logically prove anything, but that's neither here nor there. Maybe you have new evidence since last we discussed.

Happy to agree to disagree.
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