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Old 09-03-2011, 11:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by residinghere2007 View Post
So basically the OP started this thread to once again offer the information to save black people from themselves. Very liberal of you highcotton.

Like your article stated, black unemployment is always double that of white unemployment. Right now white unemployment is 8%, black is 16%.

Unemployment overall is higher than it has been in 27 years. Why the focus on black unemployment when this is the case? Why not make your sermons to all of those unemployed because all of the points you make: lack of motivation, lack of educational advancement, lack of parental involvment, rate of single parents - is something that is occuring across the country, not just with black Americans.

You once again, are attempting to divide the country on race and race bait and play a race card, something many conservatives accuse black people of on this forum daily.


When unemployment as a whole goes down, then the country will be better for it.

But of course you like to tell (black) people what do to do improve their lives. The funniest to me was about how black people don't do anything in their teenage years or in their early 20s. as if you know about what all black teenagers or college students are doing at any given time.

You are a very stereotypical person and need to widen your perspective out of the AA/black people group and look at individuals or even communities or even specific neighborhoods. All black people in this country are not like anything you have spewed regarding the causes of black unemployment. I know many white people how you describe and many latino and even Asians. All of these issues are not contained in the black population of America. Focus on everyone instead of trying to single out or demoralize a specific small group because really it seems like you are just trying to make yourself or other groups of people seem superior to another. But maybe that is your purpose, IDK but it is sad that you are making a big deal about something (black unemployment rate) when it historically is no different than in previous times when the economy was not doing well.
The truth hurts, doesn't it? That's all that can be pulled from your post.

Further, why SHOULDN'T there be a focus on a certain segment that continues to be a drag on the overall socioeconomic health of America? There is clearly a familial and structural problem in the black community, so naturally they are hit the hardest when economic downturns occur. It sounds as if you'd rather pass the buck and wonder what's going on in all of the other minority communities instead of focusing on the abject social disparities within black culture. The BLACK FAMILY IS BROKEN. What are black people doing to fix this?

You act like these problems go away during good economic times. Open your eyes.

 
Old 09-03-2011, 11:15 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I read every post in this thread. It is sad and amuzing at the same time that people have not caught up with race pimping and bi-partisan blame. This is no good since we are in a precarious situation. Whoever runs this country has for sure succeeded in vulcanizing this nation. The Divided States of America.

We need a dramatic change that does not have to involve Democrats or Republicans. I'm afraid that this will be painful and bloody. As Morgan Freeman once said, the only way to get past these racial differences is to stop talking about it.
 
Old 09-03-2011, 11:19 PM
 
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why do ppl say blks voted for obama because he was blk.

88% of blk voted for kerry
and 90 % of blks voted for clinton.

hell 80% of blks voted for mondale and dukakais.

I hate when racist white ppl say blks voted for obama because he was blk.
They voted for him because he is a democrat.

Only 5% of blks voted for him because he was blk. its statistically a fact.
Am I the first one to ever tell you your command of statistics is not very sound? Just curious.

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Old 09-03-2011, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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Old 09-04-2011, 12:49 AM
 
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The truth hurts, doesn't it? That's all that can be pulled from your post.

Further, why SHOULDN'T there be a focus on a certain segment that continues to be a drag on the overall socioeconomic health of America? There is clearly a familial and structural problem in the black community, so naturally they are hit the hardest when economic downturns occur. It sounds as if you'd rather pass the buck and wonder what's going on in all of the other minority communities instead of focusing on the abject social disparities within black culture. The BLACK FAMILY IS BROKEN. What are black people doing to fix this?

You act like these problems go away during good economic times. Open your eyes.
I always find it a bit odd when people rush to proclaim black people "a drag on the health of America". Had white people in the past and present (although, of course, not all white people) not spend several hundred years actively working to hold black people back, we wouldn't have anywhere near the issue that we do now. And anyone who is vaguely familiar with black communities knows that there are many people pushing for education, jobs, responsible parenting, staying away from crime, and general equality - and this includes many of the people that republicans like to scream about, such as Wright, Sharpton, Jackson, and Obama.
 
Old 09-04-2011, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I always find it a bit odd when people rush to proclaim black people "a drag on the health of America". Had white people in the past and present (although, of course, not all white people) not spend several hundred years actively working to hold black people back, we wouldn't have anywhere near the issue that we do now. And anyone who is vaguely familiar with black communities knows that there are many people pushing for education, jobs, responsible parenting, staying away from crime, and general equality - and this includes many of the people that republicans like to scream about, such as Wright, Sharpton, Jackson, and Obama.
A 16 year old Black teenager never had so many opportunities in America as they do today.

The sad fact is that many are throwing it away.

Bill Cosby tells it like it is and many Blacks don't like him because of it.
Cosby points the finger right back at them for where they are today.
 
Old 09-04-2011, 09:04 AM
 
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A 16 year old Black teenager never had so many opportunities in America as they do today.

The sad fact is that many are throwing it away.

Bill Cosby tells it like it is and many Blacks don't like him because of it.
Cosby points the finger right back at them for where they are today.
That's one of those myths that pop up every once in a while - the one about how black people can't stand Bill Cosby. Truth is, black folks turned out in droves to cheer him on wherever he went, but for some reason folks didn't notice the crowds yelling "Preach!", and made up some story where black people despised him.
 
Old 09-04-2011, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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That's one of those myths that pop up every once in a while - the one about how black people can't stand Bill Cosby. Truth is, black folks turned out in droves to cheer him on wherever he went, but for some reason folks didn't notice the crowds yelling "Preach!", and made up some story where black people despised him.
I think many people focus on the criticisms from the black intellectual elite and apply them to much of black community. They were the ones who went after Cosby but you're right I recall a video clip of Cosby in Newark and it was standing ovations across the room.
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After what has come to be known as “the Pound Cake speech”—it has its own Wikipedia entry—Cosby came under attack from various quarters of the black establishment. The playwright August Wilson commented, “A billionaire attacking poor people for being poor. Bill Cosby is a clown. What do you expect?” One of the gala’s hosts, Ted Shaw, the director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund, called his comments “a harsh attack on poor black people in particular.” Dubbing Cosby an “Afristocrat in Winter,” the Georgetown University professor Michael Eric Dyson came out with a book, Is Bill Cosby Right? Or Has the Black Middle Class Lost Its Mind?, that took issue with Cosby’s bleak assessment of black progress and belittled his transformation from vanilla humorist to social critic and moral arbiter. “While Cosby took full advantage of the civil rights struggle,” argued Dyson, “he resolutely denied it a seat at his artistic table.”



But Cosby’s rhetoric played well in black barbershops, churches, and backyard barbecues, where a unique brand of conservatism still runs strong. Outsiders may have heard haranguing in Cosby’s language and tone. But much of black America heard instead the possibility of changing their communities without having to wait on the consciences and attention spans of policy makers who might not have their interests at heart. Shortly after Cosby took his Pound Cake message on the road, I wrote an article denouncing him as an elitist. When my father, a former Black Panther, read it, he upbraided me for attacking what he saw as a message of black empowerment. Cosby’s argument has resonated with the black mainstream for just that reason.
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Old 09-04-2011, 09:16 AM
 
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Any smart person regardless of skin color will continue receiving benefits if they are greater than what they will be getting paid to work. That's white, black, latino or asian.
I agree but, this thread is about black unemployment so I have tried to limit my discussion to that issue.
 
Old 09-04-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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And high male black unemployment is not helping that, a woman can live better without a husband or Uncle Sam as her husband supporting and raising the kids.

The only way out is through jobs.
What kind of job cam someone get when they haven't finished high school?
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