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Old 09-05-2011, 08:22 PM
 
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So you didn't even read it past the first two sentences else you wouldn't ask that.
Exactly, he went on about the corrupt democrat party as well.

READ IT
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:28 PM
 
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What an oxymoron from a moronic piece of oxy.

A cultist group of people who preach self-determination, limited government and limited regulations.

How stupid can you be to believe that?

The real cult is the populist socialist mindless drones pushing for 75,000 more pages in the federal register because the first 75,000 just isn't enough.

Nothing says cult like mindless drones repeating their slave master's talking points.

Perhaps many republicans on this board agree with those 3 qualities, but the ones in our government are anything but. They mean limited government for everyone except their cronies.

There is no self determination, when your the head of a mega corporation that smoozes your way in to a seat in congress, in order to chum up with your buddies and write rules and regulations in order to stifle out competition, so that your corporation can buy out the smaller boys with pennies on the dollar. That's not capitalism.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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From the link in the OP...

It should have been evident to clear-eyed observers that the Republican Party is becoming less and less like a traditional political party in a representative democracy and becoming more like an apocalyptic cult, or one of the intensely ideological authoritarian parties of 20th century Europe. This trend has several implications, none of them pleasant.

I have said this in other posts. An oath to Grover Norquist??? A pledge to ban gay marriage???

It is a cult!
I pledge Allegience to Grover Norquist
and to the Agenda for which he stands
One Party, Indivisible
with Profit and Dividends for US
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:39 PM
 
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ive said for awhile dems and repubs are equally corrupt.

the true idiots are the homers. the ones who think there on the republican or democrat team.

the code word is we. were going to do this. were going to do that.

your not part of the team. quit trying to make it sound like they care what you think, grab your pom poms, and cheer on your little R or D candidate and know your place.

i see we too much on this site.

i also think its a mental problem with the die hard ideologues, but thats another story.

Haha, very well said!

Who is this we, is there a mouse in your pocket.

There is no democrat or republican in the government.

If you label yourself as either, then your part of a nonexistent team that sure as heck does not exist in the whitehouse.

That's why I think that the ones running the show know exactly what their doing and where it is going. Does not matter who is in power.

Call them what they are please: Globalist Cockroaches

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Old 09-05-2011, 08:45 PM
 
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I read a couple paragraphs of that, and I came to the conclusion that the author is basically saying Democrats good, Republicans bad. Then the other liberal posters on here read it in its entirety and they came to the conclusion that the author is saying no Dems are bad too, but Repubs are worse. Ok, sorry guys but, when you say stuff like that, it's classified as Democrats good, Republicans bad.
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What do the Democrats offer these people? Essentially nothing. Democratic Leadership Council-style "centrist" Democrats were among the biggest promoters of disastrous trade deals in the 1990s that outsourced jobs abroad: NAFTA, World Trade Organization, permanent most-favored-nation status for China. At the same time, the identity politics/lifestyle wing of the Democratic Party was seen as a too illegal immigrant-friendly by downscaled and outsourced whites.[3]

While Democrats temporized, or even dismissed the fears of the white working class as racist or nativist, Republicans went to work. To be sure, the business wing of the Republican Party consists of the most energetic outsourcers, wage cutters and hirers of sub-minimum wage immigrant labor to be found anywhere on the globe.
The person separates the two parties into teams and denigrates both of them as you can see.

In reality, this person has yet to realize their puppets being pulled by a string serving the same masters. Two sides of the same coin.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:52 PM
 
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I don't see where this article makes the statemen "Dems good." Its context and focus is by a member of the Republican Party speaking out against the forces of change that alarm him greatly within his own party. I would agree, I have been a Republican all my life, but now find myself unable to support wider and wider elements of the party. I still consider myself a fiscal conservative, but no longer believe the Republican party represents me in practice if not in rhetoric. The founding Fathers didn't want a party system in this nation precisely because they understood the danger of evolving a Party-first, America second mentallity.

Make no mistake, corporate money has corrupted both parties, but it is modern Republicans who have most brazenly embraced that corruption and manipulated the ignorance of the masses to turn a blind eye and even believe, stupidly, that it is in their best interests to do so. The middle class has to go away, because by nature of BEING the middle-class they hold some small percentage of wealth that the super-rich and corporate interests would rather see in their own pockets. The super-rich and corporate interests will use both parties to get at that wealth, the modern Republican party has just been more eager to step up and help them, eager to get their own thirty-pieces of silver.



We have a winner!

We have the internet on our side...for now, and we need to spread the word that we are American's first, and need to do what is good for America and American's. Not Corporations, nor banks etc. and not for globalism either. Every country looks after their own and we need to start doing the same thing.

We need to first get money out of politics because that is the biggest problem we have right now.
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:03 PM
 
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I read a couple paragraphs of that, and I came to the conclusion that the author is basically saying Democrats good, Republicans bad. Then the other liberal posters on here read it in its entirety and they came to the conclusion that the author is saying no Dems are bad too, but Repubs are worse. Ok, sorry guys but, when you say stuff like that, it's classified as Democrats good, Republicans bad.
The author was pretty clear I think: Democrats bad. Republicans diabolical.

It's a well-supported stance to take if you're anyone who pays attention even casually.
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Old 09-05-2011, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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The point of the article is that the Democrats and Republicans are NOT equal. The Republicans, especially the new Tea Party types, have a vested interest in defaming our congress. Unbelievable. They go on about honoring the constitution, but they bring shame on our whole system of governance. Inept political appointies at the EPA and FEMA, senseless showdowns like the debt ceiling, torture and rendition, manufacturing intelligence for wars, and witchhunts like the Starr hearings all point to a group so obsessed with power they act in sociopathic ways. It is precisely the point that the parties are NOT equal in how they do things. The democratic party has baggage and corruption, but I cannot imagine in 1000 years that the democratic party would try to default the government, insist on shrinking the deficit while maintaining the lowest taxes in 50 years, pulling the rug out from under the government when we are preparing for the onslaught of boomer retirement, and chortling about the whole thing. And as for the cult insinuation, it seems fitting when a political party that aspires to gain a majority signs pledges and purges all the moderates from its ranks. It is getting closer to the Taliban by the day.
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:15 AM
 
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Your democratic/liberal progressives are the very people that have brought this country to its knees and only the dumbest people on the planet would blame a party that's been in minority power (Hitler style) for less than a year for a 100 years of bad policy.

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Old 09-06-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Your democratic/liberal progressives are the very people that have brought this country to its knees and only the dumbest people on the planet would blame a party that's been in minority power (Hitler style) for less than a year for a 100 years of bad policy.
No, I think the democratic party led the expansion of this country into the greatest in the world in the 20th century. Most of the great achievements of that period century, from civil rights to Apollo, occurred under democratic and moderate republican leadership. The recent shift to the far right has been associated with a rise in demagoguery, financial tomfoolery, a decline in real innovation, economic volatility, destruction of the middle class, polarization, declining, third rate infrastructure, and return of the Robber Barons. We tried all this laissez-faire, hate your neighbor baloney in the late 1800s, and 1920s. It did not work then either.
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