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Old 09-05-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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Parents in Norway are given a generous lump-sum payment when they have a child, and then receive child welfare payments of about NOK 1,000 a month (called barnetrygd) every month until the child is 16, regardless of their household income. Single parents get double the amount, and can be eligible for extra aid as well, sometimes amounting to as much as NOK 15,000 a month (USD 2,500).

State cracks down on welfare cheats : Views and News from Norway
Aren't they just inviting too many people to scam(waste) their system by it being so generous?
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Old 09-05-2011, 11:54 AM
 
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Aren't they just inviting too many people to scam(waste) their system by it being so generous?
Perhaps this benefit was introduced in an attempt to stop the Islamification of Norway but it appears to have been a failure.
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Old 09-05-2011, 11:57 AM
 
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I don't know a thing about the Norwegian welfare system, but given the size of the country and it's relative economic security, I don't see why it's a problem. If they can effectively punish the majority of those who exploit the system, it's a great boon for a country to be able to sustain the possibility of upward mobility or promote population growth, which this seems to be more about.

From an American standpoint it seems naive, but we have a tendency to view everything through a distinctly American lens, just like folks in other countries do.

In before someone makes a reference to Norway being homogeneous.


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Perhaps this benefit was introduced in an attempt to stop the Islamification of Norway but it appears to have been a failure.
Yes, with 2% of their population praying to Allah, they are doomed. Sharia law coming up any day now.
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Old 09-05-2011, 11:57 AM
 
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And here I thought our welfare system was bad.
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Old 09-05-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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Norway is ranked among the highest in every standard of living, education, healthcare, crime rate, income equality, and pollution in the world.
I'd say their welfare system is working pretty well.
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Old 09-05-2011, 12:43 PM
 
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Interesting debate on how Norwegians view poverty in their country.

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Poverty in Norway is relative: Those on low incomes rarely starve or are homeless. But there’s little money for clothing, entertainment, gifts or other items that are important to the social life of a family, especially children. The single mother interviewed by Aftenposten, which brought up the issue of poverty this week,hasn’t been able to take her children on any holiday outside Oslo for years, and they’re prevented from joining in on the activities of most of their classmates.

Concerns rise over poverty in Norway : Views and News from Norway
Touching back on the original post involving fraud. Isn't this where fraud affects the system most? Those cheating the system are taking away benefits from those who could really use them.
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Old 09-05-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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Once Norway runs out of oil and natural gasses their welfare system will collapse
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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Interesting debate on how Norwegians view poverty in their country.


"Poverty in Norway is relative: Those on low incomes rarely starve or are homeless. But there’s little money for clothing, entertainment, gifts or other items that are important to the social life of a family, especially children. The single mother interviewed by Aftenposten, which brought up the issue of poverty this week, hasn’t been able to take her children on any holiday outside Oslo for years, and they’re prevented from joining in on the activities of most of their classmates."

Touching back on the original post involving fraud. Isn't this where fraud affects the system most? Those cheating the system are taking away benefits from those who could really use them.
Think about it. She is defining her poverty by the lack of a vacation outside the city. Not by lack of food, clothing, housing or medical care as we would here in the US.
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:58 PM
 
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5th largest oil producer with a population of what 4 million they had better living high on the hog
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Old 09-05-2011, 02:02 PM
 
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If they want to, they can. Every government department, program, and action should be audited and watched closely.
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