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Old 09-07-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Originally Posted by formercalifornian View Post
No, we do not think it is important to inflict our belief system in public schools. I told you already, when this leftie goes to school, it's to shelve books, not talk to the children about what I'll be wearing to my brother's gay wedding.

Can you give me an example of something specific happening in your school regarding this issue? A book...a health unit...anything?
I'm one of the liberals in this thread but yes I will serve up that example for you.

Parker-Main

And just to be clear in case someone missed my earlier post, yes I am a liberal which means I really do not care what two consenting adults do in private. I would however be mad as all get-out if an elementary school were to push this stuff on a little kid of mine.

In case you don't care for the source, here are more
The Rainbow Babies :: Lexington Parents Sue Over King & King
http://www.wickedlocal.com/lexington...#axzz1XISzejlQ

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The basic facts are TRUE.

ETA when I was in kindergarten we played with wooden trains and finger paint fer cryn out loud.

 
Old 09-07-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: California
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Kids are interested in their own sex lives? I think you misspoke.
No, I don't think I did. Ask any 15 year old boy who's sex life he thinks about. Don't be surprised when he says "mine".
 
Old 09-07-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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My personal pet peeve is for Michelle Obama to use Disney as her personal platform to address our nations children. This seems a common theme on the left for everything from using TV to insinuate themselves into children culture to the gay agenda sticking their perversion in school agendas.

Does the right do this too and I just didn't notice?

Am I over-reacting?
What do you suggest would be better to 'reach out' to children? Film Noir? SciFi? Maybe the latest Vin Diesel (sp?) movie?

Or are you saying that the first lady has no right to address children? Wow, very paranoid, there!

Yes, the right does this to our children, also. Every time they protest a health class that deals with anything sexual; every time they make a big stink about prayer not being in schools anymore, yeah, every time they insist that 'just saying no' is the best form of birth control; every time they push for 'intelligent design' to be taught in classrooms (as if that is a contender for realism).

Yes, you are over-reacting.
 
Old 09-07-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: California
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I think schools should leave sex out as much as possible, it's really not the main forcus of anything they should be doing. However, situations do come up and they need flexability in this matter. Nothing that screams "indoctrination", whether it's sexual, political, religious or otherwise, should be standard operating procedure in a school. But neither should knee jerk reactions to any mention of these things.
 
Old 09-07-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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What do you suggest would be better to 'reach out' to children? Film Noir? SciFi? Maybe the latest Vin Diesel (sp?) movie?

Or are you saying that the first lady has no right to address children? Wow, very paranoid, there!

Yes, the right does this to our children, also. Every time they protest a health class that deals with anything sexual; every time they make a big stink about prayer not being in schools anymore, yeah, every time they insist that 'just saying no' is the best form of birth control; every time they push for 'intelligent design' to be taught in classrooms (as if that is a contender for realism).

Yes, you are over-reacting.
Yup, thats me.

Keep that sleazeball away from my kids, quit using childrens media as a platform for political propoganda.
This "expicative" is preaching nutrition on disney while armed federal agents are busting down the doors of business dealing in (drum roll) raw foods!
 
Old 09-07-2011, 01:43 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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If a gay IT specialist, project manager, engineer, (fill in the blank) is harassed to the extent that he leaves a job, the company suffers a loss of productivity and corporate memory that is time-consuming and expensive to replace. And it may, as you pointed out, suffer an even more expensive lawsuit. It is completely in a company's best interest to take a stand against harassment.
Only because of the madhouse that is today's America.


MADHOUSE!!! - YouTube

The madhouse that today's America attempts to indoctrinate the masses to accept deviant behavior as normal instead of dealing privately with the very small number needing help with their confusion.

But yeah, I guess you have a point because everyone knows that corporate diversity programs are anything but time-consuming and expensive.
 
Old 09-07-2011, 01:48 PM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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OK for those of you who object to Michelle Obama reaching out to children and encouraging them to eat healthier foods and get away from the electronic toys and get up and move, I ask you if you remember the Presidential Fitness awards.

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As a military man, President Dwight D. Eisenhower was probably already sensitive to the issue of physical fitness. Military officers grumbled about the condition of draftees during World War II and the Korean War. But concern about fitness peaked in the mid-1950s with publication of an international study that found American children far less fit than children in other countries. In response, President Eisenhower established the President's Council on Youth Fitness with Executive Order 10673, issued on July 16, 1956.
The Federal Government Takes on Physical Fitness - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum

But wait, don't tell me, let me guess: if Ike were around today, he'd be dismissed as a RINO.
 
Old 09-07-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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What does his gay behavior have to do with the workplace? It shouldn't even be brought up.
In most cases it shouldn't come up*, but if it is revealed unintentionally, he should not be subjected to harassment.

* In some cases, however, it can be a good thing, as it was when my brother's company was approached by a client whose business serves the gay community. The client was nervous that my brother would reject the contract, which involved managing an advertising campaign in a gay publication. He was much relieved that my brother had no issues with the job requirements, because other companies had rejected the work.
 
Old 09-07-2011, 01:50 PM
 
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I'm one of the liberals in this thread but yes I will serve up that example for you.

Parker-Main

And just to be clear in case someone missed my earlier post, yes I am a liberal which means I really do not care what two consenting adults do in private. I would however be mad as all get-out if an elementary school were to push this stuff on a little kid of mine.

In case you don't care for the source, here are more
The Rainbow Babies :: Lexington Parents Sue Over King & King
Parker/Wirthlin lawsuit back in court - Lexington, MA - Lexington Minuteman

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The basic facts are TRUE.

ETA when I was in kindergarten we played with wooden trains and finger paint fer cryn out loud.
The Parker-Main story is very disturbing. Even as a liberal, I think the parents' objections should have been honored and accommodated.
 
Old 09-07-2011, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Originally Posted by formercalifornian View Post
In most cases it shouldn't come up*, but if it is revealed unintentionally, he should not be subjected to harassment.

* In some cases, however, it can be a good thing, as it was when my brother's company was approached by a client whose business serves the gay community. The client was nervous that my brother would reject the contract, which involved managing an advertising campaign in a gay publication. He was much relieved that my brother had no issues with the job requirements, because other companies had rejected the work.
No, he should not be subject to harrassment, nor should he be allowed to harrass others.

And no, I'm not insinuating someone who is homosexual is any more likely to harrass fellow workers than you are insinuating heterosexuals are more likely to harrass fellow workers.
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